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Default DL Aurora Host: How Much Is Too Much 589

I have recently contacted Dragonlasers about getting a 589nm Aurora Laser with an output power of 10mW. They said they could make it for me(for a price of course), but I am left wondering: will it be detrimental to pump 10mW of 589nm Laser light out of such a small host?

My concerns:
1. Too Little Heatsinking Capabilities
2. Unstable Output due to Temperature Fluctuations
3. Reduced Lifetime

I would love to have that much yellow coming out of an Aurora sized host, however unless it just turns out to be a very efficient unit, I see so many problems due to temperature. While a simple diode laser can handle a wide range of temperatures, the complex process of generating 589nm is not so forgiving.

What are your thoughts on this, LPF guru's? Should I just forsake the aesthetically pleasing Aurora host for their ugly, but more efficient Spartan series Lasers?

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Default Re: DL Aurora Host: How Much Is Too Much 589

Well im too familiar with this but trying to add too much power to a host which is small can't be good. There has to be a point in which heat won't radiate properly causing the laser to not work properly/if at all.

Im sure none of this is correct but I would think buying an uglier host for more power is worth it
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what so ugly about a Spartan? I have one and they look just fine. I also have a DL viper pointer
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I know DL is on the "the list" not sure how long they have been there. spartans are actually pretty small, only a little longer than a 501B
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So what does that mean? Guaranteed seizure?
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So what does that mean? Guaranteed seizure?
Not "guaranteed" but there is a major chance of it getting seized by customs of the receiving country.
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Most of the 589s I see are all 500mW-3.3W c-mounts. 5-10mW can generally be had from a 500mW if the crystals and conditions are good. Get me a 5mW and I can likely bump it up a couple mW....

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Do you think you would be able to see a 5mW 589nm beam in the night sky for star pointing? I may try to go for a 30mW Spartan.
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You can, but only in a really dark area. It's pretty dim. Yellow is fairly bright, but still not like green. Kinda on par with 473/488 to my eyes. Certainly can see it, but it doesn't light up the sky like 532 does.
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So then 30mW sounds like the best bet. How easy do you think it would be to implant a Spartan module into a custom host? I have done 473nm on my own, and then had you and Ehgemus tag team a 532nm. Dunno about 589 though.
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Default Re: DL Aurora Host: How Much Is Too Much 589

Not sure, I've never disassembled a 589 spartan. Only a PGL-A and C, as well as the GLP-589. They all use their own module style. Though the green spartan has a similar one to my green PGL-C.
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Default Re: DL Aurora Host: How Much Is Too Much 589

I have been in contact with Adam from Dragonlasers and he said that they will guarantee delivery but that it will take 10-20 days. Fine by me. Once my 532 sells I will be purchasing it. I love my 800mW 532nm Ehgemus Laser but it is just too much green and I would rather have a yellow.

Someday soon I will be able to add a 30mW 589nm Spartan to my signature.
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