Carrie Fisher died, age 60

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Interestng that your father dated Debbie Reynolds, Carrie Fisher's mother. Was that before she became famous or after?

Her mother Debbie Reynolds died today one day after her daughter died. Unfortunate and very unusual as well.

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What a terrible curse to outlive your own children...

Stress probably killed her, and yes, a curse.

sad she passed away RIP

The older I get, the more people I know, or know of, die.... not good.

Same for me, Alaskan. Many are younger than I, as well. I thought it was very sad that Debbie Reynolds was admitted to the hospital with a stroke less than 24 hours after Carrie Fisher died and she died very soon after. It's sad, but I've known a lot more people who have died than the number of close friends I now have. If you live long enough, that will always be the way of it.

Good to see you posting Paul, we've been worried about you. Might have lost Pi, maybe Mike too, I cannot reach him.

Thanks, Alaskan. It's just been a slow and painful recuperation. I'm trying to do a little more each day. I have to go back to the surgeon's on the 19th and I guess I'll see where i stand then.

Make them promise to make it better this time instead of worse, but... I wouldn't believe them anyway, nevermind.

Yeah, I'm pretty much at the mercy of the surgical staff. They promise all sorts of wonderful outcomes, but in the end, it's a matter of how well they did their job. I'm a very unhappy camper at this point.

You know what they call the medical graduate with the lowest grades right? Doctor. I don't trust doctors any more than I would anyone in any profession, there are good professionals and there are so called professionals.

I think that is overly harsh.

Many medical students actually want to become doctors interacting with patients and all, even if they could secure other positions with more status and wage. Some even want to become general practitioners despite having the intelligence to specialize in a field.

This doesn't mean your average doctor is the very best specialist though, and that's why they often refer more difficult cases to people that are.

Often it's also a matter of chance, some patients live and some die while given the best known treatment for a condition. If someone dies it's not the doctors fault, expect that he gave the best treatment he possibly could.

I suppose this will get harder to deal with with age, as i'm still young enough and surrounded by people young enough to note that suicide is the most common cause of death among them, followed by the more rare traffic accident.

I presume by the time you reach age 60 or so more people will die of illness, but then again i'm not sure that having the majority of friends that die doing so by their own choice or reckless actions is a nice thing.

I know a lot of professionals who aren't very good at their jobs, even if educated and years of experience, I don't think any profession is immune from this problem. Being reckless is a problem for too many of our youth, I agree. I haven't seen much of that, but I have lost two friends at fairly young ages due to accidents from their hobbies.

I know you have to be your own advocate these days and know as much as you can about your condition and the medications they throw at you.

As we all get older we will need more healthcare and the more experienced doctors with their own practices are finding retirement much more attractive than attempting to deal with Obamacare.

We have a shortage of good " seasoned " doctors in America right now, many have retired early rather than staying in business with the heavy hand of big brother on their backs, the wait to see a highly qualified specialist can be over a year, this I know from personal experience and my family has seen the change as well.

I have constant tinnitus that I have simply learned to live with, some days are better than others, but the normal clinic doctor I went to offered me a freaking SSRI, seriously that stuff is poison that often leads to addiction, but this clinic doctor said take this and I looked it up and said HELL NO, I attempted to see a highly praised specialist and his receptionist wanted a 500 dollar deposit and said it would be a 1 year wait. So I waited weeks to see a clinic neurologist instead who tested me and said my nerves are fine and not to take the SSRI, I told him not to worry I won't, but then this guy try's to sell me sleep apnea equipment and I notice he has it on display on his desk. I have heard sales pitches before and he was going through his rehearsed paces, it was obvious.

So to be safe I bought my own pulse oxygen meter and recorded my sleeping oxygen and it's normal.

Pill pushers and useless crap salesmen when all I needed was 1 older doctor to tell me I would just have to learn to ignore it.

Here is just my 1st random search result echoing what I already have heard again and again Obamacare making doctors retire early - Bing

From what I have seen most businesses are there for themselves first, second for their employees and third for the customer..... but, often they pretend to be there first for the customer, second for their employees and third for the business... This is how it is for all unions I have been involved with, without exception. Doctors do not have elevated ethics, they should, the best do, but as a rule they don't and their medical businesses are practices, they practice medicine.... trying to get it right.... on thing after another, they keep trying, as long as you keep paying.

Stay as healthy as you can, hospital mistakes are a leading cause of death in America, I do think things will get better in time, but not overnight.

If they are totalling over 250,000 deaths a year due to medical error, my bet is the number is really twice as high, or more, just that they hide it.