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Can this charge the 32600 battery?!

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Hello!

I am getting these 32600 batteries (D size) for use in a laser I might buy here:
http://laserpointerforums.com/f39/price-drop-1-7w-saik-445nm-150-shipped-86463.html

Wonder if my icharger 206b charger I use for my RC flying hobby....can charge them? Charger's manual says "LiPo/LiIo/LiFe" are compatible.
I can change the "type" to LiFe and charge it ?
Here is my charger:
ProgressiveRC - iCharger 206B

I googled and found the specs for battery:LiFePO4 32600P (D size) Rechargeable Cell : 3.2V 3000mAh, 30A Rate, 9.6Wh (0.9)
Some sites call this 32600 as Li-ion which icharger doesn't show as capable.
How different is LiFe to this 32600 LiFePO4? They are same right?

Pls advice ! If it is possible.. then I'd have to build an adapter or maybe buy a radioshack D size battery holder to mod it.

THANKS!
kris
 
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The battery included is a Li-ION!!!!! Mike has said this

These batteries are 3.7V not 3.2V. Although, you may be able to run it off 3.2V batteries instead.

Li-ION batteries are 3.7v, LiFe batteries are 3.2v due to the chemistry, just like Alkaline/Ni-Cd are 1.2-1.5v

Check google if you dont believe me, here are a few quotes for you to help hammer in my point (that I have said to you three times! Not sure why you think asking other people will give you other answers, its cut and dry, black and white, it doesnt change)

Like nickel-based rechargeable batteries (and unlike other lithium ion batteries), LiFePO4 batteries have a very constant discharge voltage. Voltage stays close to 3.2V during discharge until the battery is exhausted.

Most Li-Ion batteries have a fully charged voltage of 4.1 or 4.2V

Useful rule of thumb for checking the voltage to determine charge capacity left in a Li-Cobalt cell ("Unsafe" Lithium Cobalt Oxide (Layered Structure) is the original Lithium Ion rechargeable cell, first made by Sony in 1991. It is what most people recognize as Li-Ion, and is now made by many companies such as Sony, Sanyo, Pila, Panasonic)

These readings should be taken where cell has rested at least 15 mins after charge, not under any load.


4.2V Full 100%
4.1V About 90%
4.0V About 80%
3.9V About 60%
3.8V About 40%
3.7V About 20%
3.6V Empty
<3.5V Overdischarged
<3.0V Cell damage occurs (increasingly based on duration and how much lower voltage goes.)

3.2v isnt enough power, at 3.2V a Li-Ion is "dead" and requires a recharge. Li-Ion are 4.1-4.2v fully charged, they sag to around 3.7v

BTW all the quotes were pulled from various sources, do your own search to confirm what I'm saying. I'll state it again, you need a Li-Ion charger capable of charging a cell to 4.2v WITHOUT going over 4.2v or you will kill the cell and risk explosion

EDIT: the charger JayRob has is WF-188 and they dont fit 32600/32650 cells, I have bought one and tried. The charger doesn't touch the positive terminal of the battery thus doesn't charge it. You need to make an adapter to charge the cells, which isnt really safe, or have thecottonpicker build you a custom charger but those are expensive from EU.
 
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^^^Doesnt work, trust me. I bought one to charge my maglite batteries and the positive terminal doesnt contact the charger. My maglite has not been used in over 2 months since the cells are dead and I dont want to spend $65 to get a custom charger or $35 adapters to fit my cells. I wanted to go the magnet and wire route but that isn't safe, kinda risky and dangerous but hey it does work. I sold my WF-188 charger since A) it didnt work and B) its not a great charger, its a cheaper china charger. Ill stick to my i4 and searching for a cheaper option of a quality charger. There has to be one out there since they make these cells.

I've asked all over BLF and they all say the WF-188, tried it and it doesnt work. Also go figure, none of them have any 32600 lights or cells so none of them could confirm for sure, they just went off the specs but we all know how that goes with lasers and flashlights. Aliexpress you can buy a 10,000mW laser :crackup:
 

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Glad you said something. I'll stick with my magnets. I've never seen the led any color but blue anyway :p the thing never runs out of juice! I always analy check my charging batteries anyway
 
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Yeah I mean the WF-188 was like $15 shipped and sold it for $10 (idc on the loss), I was more disappointed that my maglite is still dead :( I think I'll just have to bite the bullet and contact cottonpicker for one of his custom chargers. They are sick as heck but dang expensive. A single cell charger starts at $39!!!!!
 

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Damn that is up there! Well like I said ...goo magnets!!!! Haha. Ill post a good pic if they blow up . :/
 
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If they blow up you will have a few good photos :eek: Did you see the photos DJNY posted of his batteries that exploded? I forget where they were posted but :eek:
 

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Yeah I did, he got pretty lucky. Not like that poor old guy that mucked up his hands.
 
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Omg yeah, I feel bad for that old chap! He got seriously injured due to a crappy charger and battery :(
 

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At least it was his hands!!! Imagine if the piece that hit his coffee maker, hit him in the face.
 
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As for 32600 battery charging goes, I would not recommend using cheap charger mainly because you would push the limit of some chargers. BIG BATTERY + wimpy charger = KA-BOOM. Nevertheless, if the battery is capable of 3 - 4 Amps per hour, I would say to be able to charge it decently, go for better one that can dish up 1.5 - 2 Amps worth of juice in decent timeset (2 Hr to conclude charging).
 
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As for 32600 battery charging goes, I would not recommend using cheap charger mainly because you would push the limit of some chargers. BIG BATTERY + wimpy charger = KA-BOOM. Nevertheless, if the battery is capable of 3 - 4 Amps per hour, I would say to be able to charge it decently, go for better one that can dish up 1.5 - 2 Amps worth of juice in decent timeset (2 Hr to conclude charging).

Obviously but I'm assuming you didnt read what I said above, there is no chargers available that can handle this sized battery without going custom built :gun:
 
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True but still, I have learned not to underestimate the stupid people when it comes to that, they could jury-rig the battery holder and wire up to cheap charger anyways thinking they would save a lot money.... But, I am glad that the OP asked instead, as asking the question would save you a lot of trouble.
 
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Trouble and a hospital visit; Li-Ions are nothing the mess around with, thats why I suggest IMRs over standard Li-Ions
 




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