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Default Re: Didn't want to start a flame war!

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I'm starting to think so too.

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Uhm... This makes no sense at all.

What exactly are you trying to justify?
That kids lie and exaggerate. IMHO the fault here lies with the company, and the parents... and only after that with the kid.

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Who's side are you on?
I think he's doing his best to stay somewhat neutral.

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What the fuck is a DTR 635 and where can I get one?
635nm Laser from DTR... I'm actually more interested in that at this point than the results of a krypton video. (I think it's safe to say the ship has sailed on krypton/cvmbwhater's credibility.)



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Yeah no kidding!

There is so much great information on this site, but sadly... many of you spend your evening digesting this garbage.

Have a good night...

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Wow. Just wow.

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Yeah no kidding!

There is so much great information on this site, but sadly... many of you spend your evening digesting this garbage.

Have a good night...
the people here are what are called laser enthusiasts they actually like how lasers work many including me are interested in lasers in medical applications etc.

The reason people here get worked up about this stuff is because we love our hobby and we are sick of the bad press coming to it because of the company you work for.

Most of us here don’t only like lasers because it’s their job or because it cuts electrical tape.

And we are all sick of “it will blind astronauts watch out a satellite will fall from the sky”.

It makes us look like a bunch of irresponsible kids
and that is why
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the people here are what are called laser enthusiasts they actually like how lasers work many including me are interested in lasers in medical applications etc.

The reason people here get worked up about this stuff is because we love our hobby and we are sick of the bad press coming to it because of the company you work for.

Most of us here don’t only like lasers because it’s their job or because it cuts electrical tape.

And we are all sick of “it will blind astronauts watch out a satellite will fall from the sky”.

It makes us look like a bunch of irresponsible kids
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I agree. Wicked Lasers gives lasers in general a bad reputation. Also, them giving out high power lasers to the bbvbvbvbvb (whatever) kid doesn't help.
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Giving lasers to a 13-year old kid who works for Wicked Lasers is undermining the law. It makes WL look bad in general, since lasers are dangerous. Rhetorical, but shows the poor responsibility of WL for laser distribution. -.-
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You're all seriously so stuck on him posting that video.
And then what? Either it'll be exactly as expected and you'll all say "We told you so" , or it'll be something else and you guys will keep demanding more videos, LPM results, or whatever.

Why?

All of you asking for him to make video, do you intent to purchase the laser yourself?
If that's the case, you could know that his unit was probably cherry picked, and you've already got a graph of it's power from Mike. If you want another run, ask Mike to do another 180 second graphing on different battery or something.

Hating for the sake of hating, guys. It makes us all look bad.
Everything that Wicked is guilty of, was already pointed out more times than there are permutations of Rubik's cube. So there's no point in beating a dead horse, as you guys say.

Just... just let it die already.
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He- with it. I think Eudaimonium has a point. If we've established each of our points, its no longer needed to second, favor or agree on any other similar points. Most of us know what each of us thinks. Posting is no longer needed.

All in all, I should say this. We do not favor underage laser possession. End of story? I think so.
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It's not an issue of integrity... it is more a result of maturity.
how so?? if he stopped talkin about all his lasers from wl bein crap and started singin wl's praises when he joined the wl team an got all kindsa free stuff then its got NOTHING to do with "maturity" and EVERYTHING to do with bein a sell-out. so yeah, it IS a issue of integrity (or lack of).

like this: (from wl forum)

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This is just another reason I am offering. I understand why you might be paranoid, but if you can't trust a customer support agent for WL, who has full access to your order, is a moderator on the forum, makes many posts, has been here for a good chunk of time, and is at basically the highest rank of trustworthiness there can be, I don't know who you can trust."


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Laser 200mw - Wicked Lasers Spyder III Arctic from 1WLaser.com

i jus love where he says "i like to build lasers" !

i call BS! what lasers did he build? and he says "I work for Wicked Lasers, I think I would know." WOW what a arrogant cheese-dik POSER! he throws his "job" in peoples face like it makes him some kinda expert or emperor of the laser world or somthin.

what a joke! this guy LIES everywhere he goes an he thinks he's "at basically the highest rank of trustworthiness there can be".

r u effin' KIDDIN ME??

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There is a blindingly obvious conflict of interest here. Mr. Jarret will need to work harder than most people to prove the readings are genuine.
EXACLY! wl basicly bribes there people with free stuff to sing there praises and convince other people to buy there crappy products.

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What do you mean I have to, and what do you mean tell me to as a moderator? First of all, I don't have to do anything. I don't care if I have your respect or not. If I want to, I will, if I don't, I don't have to. What your making it sound like also, is, as a moderator, he can TELL me to post results, as if that's an order. That's not true. So, remember, I don't have to post results, and I really couldn't care less what you believe.
really? u seem to "tell people what to do" as a mod over on ur crappy joke of a forum all the time. guess u just make the rules up as u go along huh? then u brag about how ur granpa so rich that u can go to any college u want an its all paid for. must b nice to not worry about scholerships n student loans but do u REALLY have to rub other peoples face in it??
"wicked lasers bouse", huh? more like wicked lasers louse.

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Actually, he doesn't owe you anything... and he's a kid... so why bother him.
bein a "kid" is no excuse. u keep bringin up his age like thats a reason he should be alowed to stir up a bunch of BS and then evry body shoud leave him alone cuz hes "just a kid". if u go pokin a bear with a stick then u deserve to get bit no matter HOW old u are. im not much older then him an i dont go around actin all big n bad and LYIN evry were i go. like i said b4 he brung it all on his self.

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Lol... like I said, some of you are insane...




I don't take sides...
so u call us over here insane huh? well i guess thats fine cuz u can do that over here. but over on ur crappy forum cvb (aka jarret b. aka jt bellin) would permanatly revoke ur postin privlige for that. he treats that forum like his own lil private dictatership. can u say "abuse of athority"?

u dont take sides? really? dude thats ALL U DO! just cuz u also SWITCH sides when its conveniant dont mean u dont TAKE sides. it only mean u side wit ur buddy at first an than bail on him when it gets to hot an u see what a poser he is. some buddy u r.....
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I am too, with a bit more rhetorical pizzazz, not in favor of his ideals and socio-economic position. I dont think we need to go on much more about this topic.
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I was thinking about closing this thread, as it has run it's course, but on the other hand I'll leave it open in case someone has something to add. Apart from that, please keep discussions civil. Don't want to see reported posts loading up my inbox over this thread

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I agree. Wicked Lasers gives lasers in general a bad reputation. Also, them giving out high power lasers to the bbvbvbvbvb (whatever) kid doesn't help.
it actually worry's me what laws could be passed in the US because of people being irresponsible with lasers
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Actually, he doesn't owe you anything... and he's a kid... so why bother him.
He was the one that touted the Amazing Krypton results as Fact...
He was the one that stated that he was 13 years old and a
highly trustworthy employee of Wicked Lasers and a trustworthy
WL Forum Moderator....

We have the right to question this WL employee's stated facts...
Maybe it doesn't work that way in China... But it sure works like
that here...
He want's to play Adult ??... then he will need to see both sides
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You all sound 100% convinced that he lied, and that there is no chance he will ever post legitimate proof otherwise... correct?
No.... with all this time elapsed since stating his 1Watt tested
output.... I'm now convinced that he will post a Video of a Krypton
doing 1Watt or more as WL is obviously scrambling to get a High
Power Cherry Picked Laser into Jarrett's hands....

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He obviously was anticipating his LPM's arrival since the day he ordered it... you don't think he charged his batteries prior to testing? That seems kind of rediculous to me...

Cvb has a long history of "bending" the truth... that isn't uncommon in kids who have a sense of entitlement. Hopefully someday he will grow out of it...

Hell, he even lied again this evening... and then mentioned that he "must have made a mathematical error".

Edit: He's openly proclaiming to post pictures and video of his new DTR 635... so his "broken" devices are apparently functioning again... lol.
Now you are starting to see what we see....

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You're all seriously so stuck on him posting that video.

Why?

Hating for the sake of hating, guys.

Just... just let it die already.
Sweeping it under the rug will not change the fact that we
were more than likely lied to by a WL employee..
The actions of WL employee Jarrett seems to point to this....

I want to see the 1Watt output of that First Laser that he
honestly quoted at ~700mW with uncharged batteries that
magically increased to near 1W after charging the batteries...
Otherwise... it is more WL exaggerated BS...

There is no hating in my threads...
It is pure...prove to me what you claim or...
Don't lie to me !!!
EUD... if it bothers you to read this Thread.... You know..




BTW... a full video showing the Laser under test and the
LPM Graph running at the same time would be required.
I can easily shine more than one Laser on the Thermopile
Sensor to get a Higher reading and take a Screen Shot.
That would prove nothing....IMO

I can feel the pressure that Jarrett is under right now...

1) from all the questions about his quoted results and
lack of Video proof
2) from WL (they are no doubt aware of all this)
3) from inside himself trying to do the right thing and
not loose all his toys and credibility.

I guess we'll see what's more important to a 13 year
old trying to be an adult.


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0.7 Watt to 1W jump claimed by charging the batteries was an Arctic measurement. Not Krypton.

We all know what Arctic is and how it works.

Case closed.

How about sweeping it under the rug now?
Because firmly demanding something from a 13 year old with his own beliefs obviously does not work.

There are 8 pages of demanding in this thread. You want to beat it until he 'fesses up? Why, we already know he's trying to bend the truth a little. You already know what he needs to confess. So what's that getting you? (not you Jerry, I mean everybody who is demanding something).

Now, you can pummel it some more, or we can get back to whatever it is we're doing when we're not demanding proof of power output of a Wicked's new laser from a 13 year old.

Like buying lasers. I bought one today. I have two packages full of goodies waiting for me at home. I am thinking about what kind of heatsink will I need to machine for this new laser, when can I meet up with a guy who ordered a laser head for a CNC plotter, and what will I have for dinner after I'm done with some running in a few hours.

What do you want to think about? Your problems, or Wicked's problems?
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0.7 Watt to 1W jump claimed by charging the batteries was an Arctic measurement. Not Krypton.
You are wrong...he claimed that he forgot to charge the arctic...only the krypton batteries
So the 0.7W to 1.0W increase was from the krypton

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And give a ### on the power output of a new wicked laser...
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