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Tasuja

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I want to buy a handheld laser. I don't want a green laser because visibility other than the spot is not important and they're expensive. I've seen that different colors of lasers have differently shaped dots and therefore burn differently. I'm wondering which of these burns better at a range of about 6m/18feet: 500mw 405nm, 1W 445nm or a 200mw 650nm?

So far the the most attracting laser suppliers I've seen are O-like, Rayfoss, Lazerer and Dragonlasers(only Spartan 1W). Which would you recommend? Which model?

Also why is there barely any difference between the prices of Lazerer's 1W Rifle 445nm and a 1.2W Cyber 445nm waterproof?

Are the glasses that come with lasers any good or will I have to buy different ones?
 





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I'd say the 500mW 405nm, the 445nm's divergence will work against its burning ability.

Eagle Pair
glasses are a better pair than the ones offered from o-like/rayfoss/dragonlasers.
 

Tasuja

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Ok, I guess my eyes are quite invaluable.
I'd also like more information about the distance burning abilities of 405nm and 445nm lasers.
I have gathered from this site that lazerer is the more recommended site. What are the differences between these lasers, other than the price and hosts.
405nm - LZMG - MAGNUM 405nm 500mW Violet Laser Pointer Water Proof , Devil Cyber 405nm - 500mW Focusable Violet Laser Pointer Water Proof , Devil RIFLE - 405nm Full 500mW Violet Burning Laser Pointer

445nm - Cyber 445nm - 1W Focusable Blue Laser Water Proof , RIFLE 445nm - 1W Focusable Burning Blue Laser , LZSK - 445nm 1W Focusable Waterproof Blue Laser Pointer
 

Tasuja

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I've looked into the glasses and the Eagle Pair with shipping would cost me about 60$, whereas the glasses from lazerer(where I intend to buy the laser from, if I do) cost 15$( Beginner Safety Goggles for 405nm / 445nm Laser ) and they have free shipping. Why would you not recommend them over the Eagle Pair?
 

Tasuja

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As I understand the main factor, also in the chart you provided, is the OD(rating?). The Eagle Pair claims 4+ while lazerer's claim >5.0(OD+5,OD+6). Enlighten me in my mistakes.
 

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You can write OD+5 but what evidence do you have of its Optical Density? Range of Wavelength?
 

Tasuja

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So there really is no escaping the fact, I'll have to buy the Eagle Pair?
 

Tasuja

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Devil Cyber 405nm - 500mW Focusable Violet Laser Pointer Water Proof , Devil RIFLE - 405nm Full 500mW Violet Burning Laser Pointer

Now, help me choose between these 2, or suggest a better one.
The Cyber has less power, but is cheaper, smaller and waterproof.
The Rifle is more expensive, isn't waterproof(is it?), is bigger(good or bad?), but is supposed to have more power. Also I sort of like the Rifle host better, but the size throws me off slightly.

The Cyber is guaranteed to be 450mW and the Rifle guaranteed 500mW(could be 600+). How big is the difference when burning?
I'm not getting these for pointing, well maybe sometimes, but I'm still curious, how bright would these be? In daylight, or at night.
 
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No, the Rifle isn't waterproof.
Yes, its about 2 inch longer than the Cyber and 5mm bigger diameter but I wouldn't say it was particularly big. I've got one and I think its a good/decent size.
The difference in burning wont be that big i.m.o,,,they should both burn very well.
I can't comment on the brightness but ask me in a couple of weeks and I'll be able to - I ordered the Rifle 500mW 405nm myself just as the chinese holiday restrictions kicked in. :D

edit: Oh, not forgetting, the Rifle comes with a glass lens, the cyber's is resin.
 
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