Wicked laser - laser dock

icecruncher · Jul 13, 2016

Re: Wicked Laser's LaserDock

Thanks for merging the three threads

InfinitusEquitas · Jul 13, 2016

:wtf:

WL can certainly afford to fund their own design of a controller, and shouldn't need to involve indiegogo in anyway.

I can't wait until people order only to realize you need a projector to go along with it... after delivery sometime in 2018.

NightExplorer96 · Jul 13, 2016

Yeah, there's no way is pay $400 for that!

-Alex

diachi · Jul 13, 2016

Hap said:
Yeah, there's no way is pay $400 for that!

-Alex

Just going to quote myself from the other thread ... Also, can we pick a thread?

diachi said:
Just going to stick to this thread...

So basically, just a DAC/Software combination that doesn't have half the features of other similarly priced (or even cheaper!) DAC/software combinations.

Saying that - Swamidog mentioned on the Facebook laserists group that he's had one for a while and is actually quite impressed by it. If anyone knows laser shows it's him! Edit: had a chat with him via PM, he said it's quite good for just sticking some music on and chilling or whatever - that sounds quite good. Sort of set it and forget it - not sure how other software/DAC combinations compare there but last time I used QuickShow (~4 years ago now) it wasn't great if that's what you were going for.

Some more discussion from those more "in the know" than most of the members here (myself included) - no offence to anyone intended of course.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Laserist/?fref=nf <-- May be a closed group ... can't remember if you'll be able to see anything without joining.

Also, isn't it $300? I thought the $400 option is if you wanted it sooner?

NightExplorer96 · Jul 13, 2016

I just merged them since we got like 3 threads already.

yay.

-Alex

diachi · Jul 13, 2016

Hap said:
I just merged them since we got like 3 threads already. yay.

-Alex

:topic: :beer:

icecruncher · Jul 14, 2016

Hap said:
I just merged them since we got like 3 threads already. yay.

-Alex

Thanks for merging

I'm waiting to see exactly what it is and what people think.

Swamidog is VERY good on the projector side of things, so I may ask him about this at SELEM

10fenny · Jul 15, 2016

diachi? you on laserists? That thread was sooo long. I was the one that mentioned how they put a laser on a shark. Mr perry and swami had a nice conversation... hehe.
I am kind of on the fence with this product. For one it costs waaay too much. Spend another 100$ and get quickshow. This company has also seemed to have caused a lot of regulations in the US.
I do like how "sound active" it is. most of the time on QS you can only really set things to the beat, so it wont react to highs and mids unless you program it to.
HMU diachi.. maybe were already FB friends and don't know it

diachi · Jul 15, 2016

10fenny said:
diachi? you on laserists? That thread was sooo long. I was the one that mentioned how they put a laser on a shark. Mr perry and swami had a nice conversation... hehe.
I am kind of on the fence with this product. For one it costs waaay too much. Spend another 100$ and get quickshow. This company has also seemed to have caused a lot of regulations in the US.
I do like how "sound active" it is. most of the time on QS you can only really set things to the beat, so it wont react to highs and mids unless you program it to.
HMU diachi.. maybe were already FB friends and don't know it

Yeah I'm on there! I sent you a message ... I think it's you anyway.

Yeah, that remained surprisingly civil haha!

On the fence too, looks like a cool idea but seems rather expensive for what it is. No doubt Pangolin will offer similar functionality soon if they don't already (With sound activation instead of just tapping space to the beat like the current VDJ) - in which case you'd be better off with QS, IMO.

Don't have you on FB, as I said, think I sent you a message...

10fenny · Jul 15, 2016

Yep found me

swamidog · Jul 23, 2016

Re: WickedLasers

thanks diachi,

i've just received the new version (usb instead of ethernet). my first impressions are the frame rate is higher and there's less latency between the audio and the laser projected visualization.

i will post a full review in the next week or so after i've had some time to play with the new unit. i will also bring one to SELEM if anyone wants to check it out. i like it a lot, some of the visualizers are really nice and it's great to hang out and chill to when i want some eye candy but don't want to spend a month programming a show.

for the sake of full disclosure, they sent me one to provide an unbiased review of and that is exactly what i will do.

diachi said:
Just going to stick to this thread...

So basically, just a DAC/Software combination that doesn't have half the features of other similarly priced (or even cheaper!) DAC/software combinations.

Saying that - Swamidog mentioned on the Facebook laserists group that he's had one for a while and is actually quite impressed by it. If anyone knows laser shows it's him! Edit: had a chat with him via PM, he said it's quite good for just sticking some music on and chilling or whatever - that sounds quite good. Sort of set it and forget it - not sure how other software/DAC combinations compare there but last time I used QuickShow (~4 years ago now) it wasn't great if that's what you were going for.

Some more discussion from those more "in the know" than most of the members here (myself included) - no offence to anyone intended of course.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Laserist/?fref=nf <-- May be a closed group ... can't remember if you'll be able to see anything without joining.

InfinitusEquitas · Jul 27, 2016

Seems they are now offering a promo for laser dock, and 1W projector combo.

$399
USD
+ Shipping

LaserDock + Laser Projector
You get a LaserDock and a pure-diode 1W RGB laser projector. Everything you need! Save $400 off the retail price. Compatible with Mac, PC, and Android.

diachi · Jul 27, 2016

InfinitusEquitas said:
Seems they are now offering a promo for laser dock, and 1W projector combo.

That's actually a fairly good deal IMO. Assuming it's fairly balanced RGB and not 800mW Blue/100mW Green/100mW Red, like I see some Chinese manufacturers doing... That ends up being about ~300mW balanced white...

InfinitusEquitas · Jul 27, 2016

If it's balanced, it would be a good deal I agree, but this is WL we're talking about, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's not, and also underspec across the board.

There are no details at all about the pj.

submersed · Jul 27, 2016

InfinitusEquitas said:
If it's balanced, it would be a good deal I agree, but this is WL we're talking about, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's not, and also underspec across the board.

There are no details at all about the pj.

I located some specs on their indiegogo page, which shows that as mentioned by Diachi, the blue is much higher. Is it safe to assume that because of this, it's a cheap laser, and the $400 deal is in fact still crappy?

The solid-state RGB module excels in efficiency and operating lifetime compared to previous-generation DPSS modules. The dichroic optics can be easily adjusted by removing the beam alignment panel.

RED: 637nm 160mw

GREEN: 520nm 120mw

BLUE: 450nm <700mw

SCANNER: 20kpps

BEAM DIVERGENCE: <1.0mRad

BEAM DIAMETER: 4mm

SIZE: 20(L) x 15(W) x 10(H) cm

NET WEIGHT: 1.5 kg

WARRANTY PERIOD: 1 year

diachi · Jul 28, 2016

submersed said:
I located some specs on their indiegogo page, which shows that as mentioned by Diachi, the blue is much higher. Is it safe to assume that because of this, it's a cheap laser, and the $400 deal is in fact still crappy?

That's a cute little PJ...

Actually a fairly reasonable deal - terribly unbalanced - but ends up cheaper than buying a similar (Although better quality) projector from China - without a DAC or any other accessories with it. Although those usually do have a DMX/Auto mode built in - which isn't great - I'd expect WLs product to be much better than built in DMX/Auto shows that come with cheap projectors.

D-RGB1000

Really don't like when such an unbalanced projector is advertised as "800mW". I could build a "5W RGB" with 4.9W blue, 50mW G and 50mW R - it'd still be 5W but that's a bit misleading...

Also:

Just got this PM from Mixedgas on PL (LSRFAQ here).

You might want to mention this on LPF

I Quote the Wicked Laser Web Site

Yes, non-US customers may select the Laser Projector perk to receive our 1W RGB laser projector that uses only pure-diode laser sources and thus have great beam specifications with beautiful analogue color modulation.
It's perfect for homes and small venues. Since we don’t ship the US, once you purchase a LaserDock Perk, we will send you a link to our wholesaler who ships worldwide.
Note that this perk does not include the LaserDock.

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