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Ok they have a 200mw violet laser for $59.89 and they ship to the USA
I want to know if this company is legit and it will actually be close to 200mw.
And if you know please tell me if they accept debit cards i know they will accept credit i think it will work not for sure though.

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200mW Starry Sky Blue Laser Pointer Pen Laser Pointer Pen, Blue Laser Pointer Pen, 200mW Starry Sky Blue Laser Pointer Pen - DinoDirect.com


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them screwing up the specifications and overview tells me they suck.
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Human eyes are sensitive to this blue color and this high power laser pointer pen is much more noticeable than others. This laser pointer is best suitable for professors, teachers, doctors, student presentations and etc
Was there even anything not wrong in that description of a 200mW bluray pointer?

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I've got to agree with Hallucynogenyc. Unless you have the tools to test the output, don't mess around with it. Even then, it could be poorly constructed.
They don't know what bluray is. How can you expect them to know about laser power meters? If you tell them that the laser you received is underspec they just won't return you anything. I'm not saying they are trying to scam or anything, but they obviously have an absolutely lack of knowledge about the product and so I wouldn't even consider it.
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i've bought from them a few times. I can't vouch for their specs......but i know they atleast ship "something" to you.
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just have viewed this site, i found many cool items. want to choose some cheap item to have a try. May be you can also try it in this way
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I have purchased these 4 lasers. I will report back when they arrive. They charge "Tax" sneaky bastards.

200mW Green Laser Pointer Pen with Strap Black US$ 49.99

50mW 532nm High Power Green Laser Pointer Pen US$ 24.89

100mW 660nm Waterproof Green Light Laser Flashlight US$ 49.99

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Hi i just got my lasers that i ordered yes they take debit cards that's what i used. The shipping sucked i ordered them on oct 3rd and received them oct 30 these are cheap chinese lasers but i will say they made it from singapore to usa with no problems they marked the package as electronics and as a gift with a value of 10 bucks so made it through customs i don't have a power meter but neither of them will burn stuff they are about as bright as my ledshoppe 30mw pen the 200 being a little bit brighter than both the packaging was alright no instructions for the 200mw but the 100 did come with some funny chinese instructions that are hilarious. Also don't get insurance does not do anything and don't expect to be able to track the item either.

200mW Green Laser Pointer Pen 76.49
100mW Waterproof Green Laser Flashlight (rayfoss look alike) 49.99
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I have purchased these 4 lasers. I will report back when they arrive. They charge "Tax" sneaky bastards.

200mW Green Laser Pointer Pen with Strap Black US$ 49.99

50mW 532nm High Power Green Laser Pointer Pen US$ 24.89

100mW 660nm Waterproof Green Light Laser Flashlight US$ 49.99

200mW 532nm Halfsteel Middle Open Green Laser Pointer US$ 45.99
ok, waiting to your report back when they arrive. thanks. now i am attracted by some novelty item such as Analog Novelty Hamburger Corded Desk Home Telephone
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Hi i just got my lasers that i ordered yes they take debit cards that's what i used. The shipping sucked i ordered them on oct 3rd and received them oct 30 these are cheap chinese lasers but i will say they made it from singapore to usa with no problems they marked the package as electronics and as a gift with a value of 10 bucks so made it through customs i don't have a power meter but neither of them will burn stuff they are about as bright as my ledshoppe 30mw pen the 200 being a little bit brighter than both the packaging was alright no instructions for the 200mw but the 100 did come with some funny chinese instructions that are hilarious. Also don't get insurance does not do anything and don't expect to be able to track the item either.

200mW Green Laser Pointer Pen 76.49
100mW Waterproof Green Laser Flashlight (rayfoss look alike) 49.99
would you please show the link, i do not know why i can not find it. Thanks
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Here is the links for what i got.

532nm 200mW Green Laser Pointer Pen Laser Pointer, Green Laser Pointer Pen, Green Laser Pointer Pen 200mW - DinoDirect.com

100mW 660nm Waterproof Green Light Laser Flashlight Green Laser Flashlight, Waterproof Flashlight, 100mW Waterproof Green Laser Flashlight - DinoDirect.com

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ok, thank you. i will consider to buy one. thank you very much
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Ha!! I just realized that they are a Fremont, California based company here in the US!!!that is why I was charged tax. It was an in state transaction. They are undoubtadly though a drop shipper and they just take the orders and pass them off the their Chinese counterparts who ship everything while they collect a small portion of the profit from the sale. I had no idea
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Ha!! I just realized that they are a Fremont, California based company here in the US!!!that is why I was charged tax. It was an in state transaction. They are undoubtadly though a drop shipper and they just take the orders and pass them off the their Chinese counterparts who ship everything while they collect a small portion of the profit from the sale. I had no idea
Thank you for your information. I also realized they are a Fremont, California based company by the Contact US page :Contact Us - DinoDirect.com i do not care too much about where the company is but the price and the quality. i have bought some novel things. Waiting the time to arrive.
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have viewed your pic, it seemed good. Have you used it? how do you think about?
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Wow guys! Have you seen this?
0.5mW White Laser Pointer with Key Chain Silver Flashlight, Laser Pointer Flashlight, 0.5mW White Laser Pointer Flashlight - DinoDirect.com

A white laser? Four bucks? Methinks this might be a plain ultrabright LED!
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