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DL "Aurora" green now available in 100mw.






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Yeah, the battery is the only thing I really don't like about it... If it had better batteries I would definetly prefer it over the regualar pen hosts.
 
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Ya, it's "chubbiness" is really okay.. Feels better in the hand, and of course I love the build quality of it, that battery still gets me, I've got to carry a spare if I plan on using it much... And those batteries ain't cheap. I have rechargeables but they don't like to hold a charge. :(
 
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it is the SAME pan sold by novalasers... called endeavor. but noone bought that pen.. or made a REVIEW about it
 
cmak

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realista said:
it is the SAME pan sold by novalasers... called endeavor. but noone bought that pen.. or made a REVIEW about it
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It's all manufactured by CNI, it's called the GLP host (this one being the "phat" CR2 version, as opposed to the skinnier 2xAAA "DL Viper" model) therefore many various websites sell their own version of it (e.g. DL's Aurora).

What is it with these super-powerful 532nm's being built in pen-hosts and sold at massive prices? Terrible batteries = terrible power output stability and battery life, crammed host = terrible heatsinking = poor duty cycle, etc. Not to mention these cost a pretty penny... more people should look into bigger hosts such as the PGL-III-M "DL Spartan" or the PGL-III-C "DL Hulk Ultra; LG Aries" where you can get an overspec 300mW laser with excellent heatsinking and great 18650 batteries for far less than the Endeavor.

-Chris
 
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cmak said:
It's all manufactured by CNI, it's called the GLP host (this one being the "phat" CR2 version, as opposed to the skinnier 2xAAA "DL Viper" model) therefore many various websites sell their own version of it (e.g. DL's Aurora).

What is it with these super-powerful 532nm's being built in pen-hosts and sold at massive prices? Terrible batteries = terrible power output stability and battery life, crammed host = terrible heatsinking = poor duty cycle, etc. Not to mention these cost a pretty penny... more people should look into bigger hosts such as the PGL-III-M "DL Spartan" or the PGL-III-C "DL Hulk Ultra; LG Aries" where you can get an overspec 300mW laser with excellent heatsinking and great 18650 batteries for far less than the Endeavor.

-Chris
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Yeah, agreed. I have never been fond of the battery life on my CNI GLP (2xAAA). You may only get 5 minutes out of the laser at it's best. Then it just slowly drops from there on. But if you think about it though, these pens are the same as the 5mw versions, aren't they? I'm not sure if the driver is the same but it's definitely the same power source, so no wonder they don't last long.

Next laser I get is either going to be a PGL CNI or a Spyder III (also the 18650).
 
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Moptsp said:
Yeah, agreed. I have never been fond of the battery life on my CNI GLP (2xAAA). You may only get 5 minutes out of the laser at it's best. Then it just slowly drops from there on. But if you think about it though, these pens are the same as the 5mw versions, aren't they? I'm not sure if the driver is the same but it's definitely the same power source, so no wonder they don't last long.

Next laser I get is either going to be a PGL CNI or a Spyder III (also the 18650).
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You guys expect too much out of these pen lasers.
They are not designed for long duty cycles. And the reason they are expensive is because miniaturization while maintaining efficiency is always expensive.
Expecting labby performance from a pen size laser is expecting too much.

And maybe your batteries are no good, because in all the CNI pens I've owned, the battery life has been very good with a good set of NiMH rechargeables. I would say about 50 minutes of total use at full power.

By the way, the higher power models are not "the same" as the 5mW pens. I'm not sure what you mean by that.
The higher power models of the AAA GLPs use a >500mW pump (likely 1W because I have gotten 700mW out of one without breaking a sweat) and the drivers are almost perfect as far as regulation goes.
The fatter pens likely use the same components only with a larger host for better heat-sinking.

I've always been under the impression that if CNI is good at one thing, it's producing very high quality DPSS green pens.
 
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I beg to differ, the Endeavor is a great Laser and works very well and fits the hand well. I know many around here that would have disagreed with you on the 4 of July too:)

Battery life is fine to me and they are not expensive if you order in advance and keep them around.

Remember they have a long shelf life, the ones being sold locally for example show an expiration of 4/2019. I've compared the local ones sold by Energizer to those sold on DX, which are Panasonic and found NO difference in run time or performance.

DealExtreme: $6.11 Panasonic CR2 5-Pack

So @ at $1.22 a piece for lithium I personal don't find them expensive at all, remember it's not a flashlight that you are trying to run for hours at a time.
 
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RA_pierce said:
You guys expect too much out of these pen lasers.
They are not designed for long duty cycles. And the reason they are expensive is because miniaturization while maintaining efficiency is always expensive.
Expecting labby performance from a pen size laser is expecting too much.

And maybe your batteries are no good, because in all the CNI pens I've owned, the battery life has been very good with a good set of NiMH rechargeables. I would say about 50 minutes of total use at full power.

By the way, the higher power models are not "the same" as the 5mW pens. I'm not sure what you mean by that.
The higher power models of the AAA GLPs use a >500mW pump (likely 1W because I have gotten 700mW out of one without breaking a sweat) and the drivers are almost perfect as far as regulation goes.
The fatter pens likely use the same components only with a larger host for better heat-sinking.

I've always been under the impression that if CNI is good at one thing, it's producing very high quality DPSS green pens.
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Na, it's not my batteries. I have tried both Energizer NiMH and Eneloop NiMH (King of rechargeable AAA :D ) Maybe I just got a dud or you got some special lasers? :shhh:

Yeah, of course. It has a higher powered diode. I meant the power source is the same, and the heat sinking is the same. Though I still am guessing here. The higher output models may have lager modules (larger heat sink.)

Thanks for your input on your pens though, now I know I may not be being as picky as I thought. 50 minutes at optimum output is killer imo.
 
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cmak..... you said that you can find "an overspec 300mW laser with excellent heatsinking and great 18650 batteries for far less than the Endeavor"

FAR LESS?....excuse me.. where? and try to think that a laser is a thing that should be usable everywhere... when you go outside.. or at a night dance party on the beach... like here in italy. i cannot use an HANDHELD laser.....a big host laser..... it is not usable for me... so i would prefer a 250mw endeavor...instead a 350mw big laser......
 
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realista said:
cmak..... you said that you can find "an overspec 300mW laser with excellent heatsinking and great 18650 batteries for far less than the Endeavor"

FAR LESS?....excuse me.. where? and try to think that a laser is a thing that should be usable everywhere... when you go outside.. or at a night dance party on the beach... like here in italy. i cannot use an HANDHELD laser.....a big host laser..... it is not usable for me... so i would prefer a 250mw endeavor...instead a 350mw big laser......
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CNI PGL-III-C-532nm 300mW - $465

$689-$465 = $224 = far less.

-Chris
 
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Well that is the size of an RPL, but I agree he did ask for one that uses a 18650 battery source. Also you really should adjust the price, because that is not the delivered price with shipping & fees; whereas Nova's is the delivered price, just trying to keep it on the same level ground.

I like the Endeavor for it's size & power, I already have a couple of RPL's; so the PGL III -C-532 nm makes no sense for me.
 
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What do you think would be a better choice for me if I decide between the two, electron?
An Endeavor rated 250mw for $589 or a RPL from opto rated at 200mw for ~$600?

The pluses I see with the RPL is the freakin' low divergence at possibly <0.9mRad and the very long diode life. How ever, it's much more for 50mw less. :\

Thanks.
 
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The next thing I would ask myself then would be what size do you want/need? They both are awesome Lasers, so that may help you decide which is best for you.
 
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if you like to bring everywhere with you the laser.. the endeavor should be the best option. but rpl i think have better diode Nlight... long duty cycle...1mrad... but TRY to use it in a night party....... where could you keep it? in your pockets of pants??
 
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