Dark Horse vs Dark Lasers

tommii89 · Oct 12, 2009

Lulz at Mo, I completely agree.

Dark_Horse · Oct 12, 2009

Mohrenberg said:
sorry....i'd love to join in but these posts are too long, and my attention span is too short to read them

Fair enough, I am pretty long-winded.

For those that need a condensed version:
I have been in contact with Tyler and we have worked out some changes that will clear most of any confusion between the two identities, eveything that is practical to do.

We have also agreed to leave this thread, unedited, but neither of us will post in it anymore, unless something unforeseen happens, (which I do not expect), related directly to the issue I set forth in the first post.

Sorry for the drama, I hate drama, (unless it in a Chuck Norris movie, right Nikko? lol).

As Dave would say;
"Peace"
Barry

matrixcs · Oct 12, 2009

LOL nikko where are you?? hehehhe anyway, this is it!! i hope we can all move on.

Meatball · Oct 12, 2009

Dark Horse,

you are right. There were a couple here that got way too involved. They did it for reasons unknown. I'm glad things have been settled between you and Dark. Everyone else, should definitely leave Tyler alone about it now. If there is something you'd like to take up with him, do it via PM. NOT here.

I don't care to read about how some guy got a bad laser part from Tyler. Thats between him and Tyler.

I don't care to read one person antagonize, and push around another member because of their past record, or past PMs, or past deals. It not cool to bully around like so. Do it via PM. Keep the drama OFF the threads please. Such bullying is childish. Such bullying is cowardly to do on the internet at that.

There is only ONE moderator here. Let him decide who is an issue and who is not.

This is why its getting harder and harder for me to read LPF anymore....

No where near enough moderation in behavior around here. Very little professionalism.

Please all, no more drama in the threads. This is quite old.

Thank you. I've just wanted to say that for awhile now.

-Tyler

matrixcs · Oct 12, 2009

?? confused... there are 2 tylers here?? one is meatball and one is dark??

Meatball · Oct 12, 2009

Yes, one is me.

One is Dark.

Tyler is actually a very common name in the U.S.

In my generation it was the 7th most popular boy name.

I thought I would share that....

with you...

-Tyler

daguin · Oct 12, 2009

Meatball said:
Dark Horse,

you are right. There were a couple here that got way too involved. They did it for reasons unknown. I'm glad things have been settled between you and Dark. Everyone else, should definitely leave Tyler alone about it now. If there is something you'd like to take up with him, do it via PM. NOT here.
I don't care to read about how some guy got a bad laser part from Tyler. Thats between him and Tyler.
I don't care to read one person antagonize, and push around another member because of their past record, or past PMs, or past deals. It not cool to bully around like so. Do it via PM. Keep the drama OFF the threads please. Such bullying is childish. Such bullying is cowardly to do on the internet at that.
There is only ONE moderator here. Let him decide who is an issue and who is not.
This is why its getting harder and harder for me to read LPF anymore....
No where near enough moderation in behavior around here. Very little professionalism.
Please all, no more drama in the threads. This is quite old.
Thank you. I've just wanted to say that for awhile now.
-Tyler

Unfortunately, not everything can be handled in PM's. Some things must be handled publicly in order to get change.

If private pressure does not work then public pressure must be used.

If there are people being harmed because someone is hiding in the shadows. The actions must be brought to light.

If people are being harmed because the only voice that they hear is the one doing them harm, then other voices must be called out.

I am sorry for the drama. We have lost some very good members because of it. I have been around long enough for people to know that I do not rise to action swiftly or without good cause. Unfortunately, sometimes drama is the only available tool in an internet forum.

Peace,
dave

matrixcs · Oct 12, 2009

@ daguin I agree... hehehe
@ meatball i see... thats a good info somehow here in the philippines Ryan and Jose is a common name hehehhe

SenKat_Stonetek · Oct 12, 2009

Jaseth said:
Sorry Dave, but even though I feel Tyler may be acting a little too emotional and defensive in his replies, I still think you are in the wrong here. You may have included a little side note about him just having to fix it if it was an honest mistake, but the main part of your post was a full on, unfair attack, which you now refuse to apologize for.
I have a lot of respect for you and your contributions to this forum, but I cannot just stand by and watch when you treat a member like this.
You might have had other encounters with Tyler which cause you to have this attitude towards him, but in this particular issue he was not responsible for problem but still had to get a load of crap from you.

And Greg.. I must say I am offended by your post. You seem to have some major problem with anyone new or young, just because you have had bad experience with a few noobs here.You may have been here for longer, done a lot of deals and are older, but that does not mean you can talk down to other members like that. I am getting quite sick of the "We hate young people" mentality on the forum lately. Many very helpful and polite members here are younger than 25, and several troublemakers have been at least 30. Quit spewing all this prejudice crap. There are black sheep in any herd.

Seb

Well, "Seb" -

I have ZERO issue with youth, as I have defined a multitude of times in the past, the "KIDDIES" that I speak of denotes immaturity - NOT AGE. Seriously - follow this for best results :

1. Grab ducks.
2. Place before mentioned ducks in a row.
3. Repeat.

After that is done - more than a sentence can be written about me in an attempt to flame, discredit, or whatever else you CHILDREN (again, please see what I mean by CHILD, or KIDDIE before spouting off, and stroking your tiny little ego) wish to type in a thread, just to clarify. And before I leave, I shall answer one more item, to "Mr. D. Army" - no, I have nothing against you - other than the extremely simple fact of this....if you choose to host a store, or anything in a public arena - YOU are responsible for the media, NOT your webmaster. YOU are 100% responsible - NOT the webmaster. You are 100% responsible - NOT the webmaster. Perhaps, similar to Dorothy, if I mention it three times it shall stick in someone's head ? It's GREAT that you, and Dark Horse have reached an agreement that he is comfy with, kudos for getting it settled ! Go ahead and flick your bic - I'm scorch proof anyways. Hasta, folks !

Tabish · Oct 12, 2009

Omg, not again.......

Dave, Dark, quit the flame wars already.....

Seems like a misunderstanding, nothing more.

Dark, FIX IT ASAP.

Don't drag this out over a month. Just get the background changed TODAY...so we can all move along...

daguin · Oct 12, 2009

Tabish said:
Omg, not again.......
Dave, Dark, quit the flame wars already.....
Seems like a misunderstanding, nothing more.
Dark, FIX IT ASAP.
Don't drag this out over a month. Just get the background changed TODAY...so we can all move along...

You misread my last post. The "tone of voice" is NOT angry. It is sad.

Peace,
dave

jander6442 · Oct 12, 2009

Somewhere over the rainbow where birds fly... If birds can fly... why oh!! why can't... I.

People wonder why forum members such as frothy are gone. They simply get tired of hobbies gone bad.

build them... enjoy them... be responsible with them... just don't sell them.

boosted_4cyl · Oct 12, 2009

Dont worry DaOo, I still love you!

sk8er4514 · Oct 12, 2009

Dark_Horse said:
We still have a couple of dozen DJR full-body heatsinks ready to go. We plan to do a full restock of updated heatsinks for new hosts, plus some other laser-related items by the end of the year. I also plan to add some high-voltage-items to the catalog, Kits for building Tesla-Coils, Van de graff generators, etc. Stay tuned.

Barry

Please make some more of the CREE host "Sliver" type, I'll buy at least 5. those flashlights are amazing.

and yes the style and background of his site is a bit too similar. It looks like he hasn't changed anything yet. I'll PM him if no one has already.

good luck,
Kendall

charliebruce · Oct 12, 2009

Site background has been changed, I'm awaiting a PM regarding further changes to style and branding.

Meatball · Oct 12, 2009

daguin said:
Unfortunately, not everything can be handled in PM's. Some things must be handled publicly in order to get change.

If private pressure does not work then public pressure must be used.

If there are people being harmed because someone is hiding in the shadows. The actions must be brought to light.

If people are being harmed because the only voice that they hear is the one doing them harm, then other voices must be called out.

I am sorry for the drama. We have lost some very good members because of it. I have been around long enough for people to know that I do not rise to action swiftly or without good cause. Unfortunately, sometimes drama is the only available tool in an internet forum.

Peace,
dave

Thank you for the explanation Dave, it helped a lot!

I don't feel so annoyed anymore..

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