Seeking Advice from experinced Fourm sellers and buyers

jakeGT · May 10, 2012

RyanElectro said:
Dave, I want NOBODY to feel sorry for me. I want EVERYBODY to understand I struggle with certain things, to bare with me as it's difficult to understand me. Even I can't understand myself. I have a condition that affects me in various ways, the only benefit I get is a high IQ. Everything dealing with EQ is always scored very low. Communication and explaining, socializing, etc. I'm the worst at. I have maybe 1 real life friend who truly understand me for who I am. I'm just a geek who's only life is online... but even that is gone now.. there's nothing left for me.

I'm not that great at explaining, as you can see, when Moh and TS pitched in, they explained the situation MUCH better than I ever can.

And NO! I do not "prey" on noobs! My goodness. I said I market to noobs, that's what I think is best for a starter seller. I'm not good enough to market to other hobbyists just yet. On one hand, you guys expect me to be some super builder that markets to hobbyists and have really low prices, and on the other hand, you guys say I'm just a new seller and "preying" on noobs.

Market Prices
I'm DEFINITELY not! preying on noobs. I'm not that low. Noobs get "preyed" on by WL, by $599.99 prices. Selling a clean, rare laser that's 300mW more powerful and $324.99 less expensive is definitely not "preying" on them. Think from market perspective, not cost price. I'd be an idiot to sell it for $250. Even at $325, I had too much demand, that people were "bidding" over other people to buy my laser. That means the market wants the price higher than $325, around $350 perhaps, as that's basically where the bidding stopped. Believe it or not, I still didn't sell it to any of the bidders, but to a person who trusted me throughout, a person who supported me and believed me. I sold it to him for very cheap @ $305. I'm NOT here only for the money.

And dave, you really think I'm here to fake it all? That I have no integrity, no honesty, just a huge fake, here on LPF to deceive everyone. You think I just want to be hated? This is the most upsetting thing for me atm...

I'm already good with most people and we've settled our differences. But it is still you dave, the person who supported me from the start. I can't believe u think this of me. Everyone who actually have dealt with me have said that I'm a real good guy, honest and offers great service. I really think it's a big misunderstanding of me. It's really sad... you'll probably never get to know me better.

I feel I can never get ur support back. But I liked you dave, you were the first one who supported me... and I'll never forget that. I'm sorry I made some mistakes and let you down. But I can assure you throughout this entire thread I was honest and it was from my heart. I hope that in the future (if there is any), you'll come to know me better. I can't stress it enough that I'm an honest, straight up guy.

Anyway, I think I'm done here, I have no more strength to carry on, I try to hide it but I'm feeling really depressed and just no motivation to get out from bed anymore... no appetite to eat. And PLEASE don't feel sorry for me. I'm just stating how I feel. Just tired of living...

Dude. It's the internet. If this forum has got you feeling that way, you seriously should just leave the internet world forever. IT'S TEXT ON A SCREEN. WORDS FROM PEOPLE YOU DO NOT KNOW AND WILL MOST LIKELY NEVER MEET.

Like I said, and many others agree, you came in here arrogant, ignorant, and throwing around an attitude of being better, smarter, and more intellectual than the collective forum. Not many people take that crap well.

Seriously, if you change your style and ACTUALLY LISTEN to the GREAT advice many people are giving you, you would be AWESOME in my book. Hell, the first couple of months I was here I had Tech_Junkie on ignore list because I thought he was just being a dick trolling me. I learned soon that he trolls in a helpful way.

We weren't just waiting for a newb seller to walk in the door and beat him with sticks until he left, we just don't like people coming in saying I am this, I am smarter than you, I am better than you, blah blah blah blah blah.

Seriously, build a few lasers, if you wanna sell something, sell it. But expect a very competitive market, and people calling out bullshit comments/remarks.

Sorry we put you down in such a way that "you can't get out of bed". Seriously, go to a bar, grab a beer( if your of age), and take home a nice chick with one of yobresal's infamous sex passes. LOL

RyanElectro · May 10, 2012

Hey EMF.... thanks for the tips. You do seem like one of the very few who understands just how I feel. I'm not like many of you guys here. I'm not a rock hard person with thick skin. I was always bullied, always pushed around in school. I would always get pushed to a corner. That's how I started becoming defensive very easily. Also, it's not just one or two things. It was multiple things that accumulate and day-by-day add on to my misery. One traumatic incident can really affect me, but day-by-day misery, hurt and depression destroys me...

Yes call me a pussy, call me a softie, but from the series of trollings, and all the things that came thereafter... I broke down. After making the video in this thread, I went straight to bed and cried myself to sleep. Everytime I write a reply here, I tear up and I'm tearing up right now....

Yes I have no friends, yes my family doesn't understand me either, so i don't expect any of you too, yes here is the only feeling of community & belonging I have.

I'm sorry again... You guys are all I have left...

ARG · May 10, 2012

RyanElectro said:
Hey EMF.... thanks for the tips. You do seem like one of the very few who understands just how I feel. I'm not like many of you guys here. I'm not a rock hard person with thick skin. I was always bullied, always pushed around in school. I would always get pushed to a corner. That's how I started becoming defensive very easily. Also, it's not just one or two things. It was multiple things that accumulate and day-by-day add on to my misery. One traumatic incident can really affect me, but day-by-day misery, hurt and depression destroys me...

Yes call me a pussy, call me a softie, but from the series of trollings, and all the things that came thereafter... I broke down. After making the video in this thread, I went straight to bed and cried myself to sleep. Everytime I write a reply here, I tear up and I'm tearing up right now....

Yes I have no friends, yes my family doesn't understand me either, so i don't expect any of you too, yes here is the only feeling of community & belonging I have.

I'm sorry again... You guys are all I have left...

Honestly, it sounds like you need to go see a counselor/therapist. That is some heavy stuff...

jakeGT · May 10, 2012

Then please dear god, take the good advice people are throwing at you. And you'll do fine here.

Read the posts with advice for you, and at least give this advice a chance and try it out.

Wannaburn just gave you sound advice. Step back from reading and posting, build some cool shit. Show us. We would love to see what you can come up with.

Calm down dude, it's not worth giving yourself an ulcer. Smoke a joint, chill out and put on some pink floyd. You'll be aight

RyanElectro · May 10, 2012

ARGLaser said:
Honestly, it sounds like you need to go see a counselor/therapist. That is some heavy stuff...

I already see a psych every 2 weeks. I'm on a list of medications but it's not like they help much... just numbs me which i absolutely hate.

I just want to be good with everybody again... I want people to see my sincerity.... feel my sincerity. I want... friends..

jakeGT · May 10, 2012

You will be good with everybody again. You will be okay. Just please for pete's sake, abandon the better than all/smarter than all attitude. And don't get mad if your wrong, and carefully choose your words you put in your posts.

Nobody wants you to get this worked up over a internet forum.

RyanElectro · May 10, 2012

jakeGT said:
You will be good with everybody again. You will be okay. Just please for pete's sake, abandon the better than all/smarter than all attitude. And don't get mad if your wrong, and carefully choose your words you put in your posts.

Nobody wants you to get this worked up over a internet forum.

The attitude's gone. I'm definitely not smarter than everyone here, I'd only be foolish to feel that way. But yeah sometimes I get too defensive, it's a bit natural for me so please let me know if I do come off like that, I don't mean to offend anybody, I really don't.

And it might just seem like an internet forum for most people, but it means the world to me... It's the only place I have where I can actually chill and talk to others... to relate with others. And it's personally attached to me and my reputation as a person. So it does mean a lot to me.

But thanks Jake, since this thread started, I've changed and I promise to be a better person. I don't know if I'm good enough to contribute as well as some of the vets here, but I'll try my best.

obsidianjaguar · May 10, 2012

I also would say RE is a great guy , and my gut feeling all along was that was was trying to save me $$ with the Alert Pay thing , and in the end I only changed my mind because of one of the elder members giving me a non public offer that was very very nice

... As I have stated prior , I'd jump right into a deal with RE , with no worries in the future ....
Now to RE
I do want to chime in and say to you , ... If you are truly feeling down , you MUST inform the therapist that you are already seeing ... Explain you do not like the " numbness" you experience with the current meds , and TRUST me you will find other options ... I have had ADD since childhood , with secondary depression , and relate extremely well well to your posts about feeling isolated , hard to explain yourself , few friends ,and online community being your " safe haven" ( my life changed for ever once I started using compuserv lol on my amber monochrome monitor apple II lol ) . one thing the voice of experience can offer to you is , if you condition has in its roots , a physical component ( ie neurological , biological , brain chemistry , ect .. ) then it is simply a matter of determining the imbalance "topping up " when needed and making adjustments till things run smoothly ... If you haven't got that side sorted , you will never have a clear enough head to think about making other adjustments needed to be happy ... It's a LONG and often difficult road , but I can tell you , with diligence you will get on top of it , and learn to recognize the small bumps that precede a huge dip , even just remembering all the stuff you have ALREADY been through , will aid in putting any current situation into perspective ... I may be on the other side of the earth , but here is an open invitation to go to PM and talk about this aspect of stuff , cause in a lot of ways I sort of had to cut through a jungle of crap in my life with a machete , I would hope that I might be able to shed a bit of light to help with your path-making ..
OJ

tsteele93 · May 10, 2012

JLSE said:
LOL...

@RE, quit worrying about the arguing, convincing or whatever you want to call it.

Do some reading, practice some soldering , build a laser and move on.
Sitting around and getting worked up about what person A and person B
have to say will not gain you any building experience.

Move on and stop looking back. You only gain build experience by building..
not by talking about it.

:beer:

Great advice! I got into a tizzy once (or twice?) here on the forum and Dave sent me some good advice about stepping back from it. So I spent the next day building a 405 and tried to stay off the forum for a little bit.

When I started posting again, I found that most everyone had pretty much moved on to another drama show and forgotten (mostly) about mine.

Plus, I had a successful 405 build under my belt.

Then I tore that down to steal the driver for a 660 LPC-826 build and killed about eleventy seven 405 diodes trying to get the other one back together and... Well, that's another story.

But yeah, good advice!

DarkSide · May 10, 2012

Interesting thread to be honest. Tsteele93 - Hope you realize you could have accomplished the same outcome by supporting young Ryan ( whom i have no issues with ) with out a single mention of one Moderator commenting in this thread , he's comments, and opinion. Your entitled to disagree with this person and Mod and address your concerns. Problem is your approach. You make directed insinuations, BS comments on he's faux pas and just plain rude. Unfortunately its not a surprise to me and not the first. A few folks here may have seen a first glimpse. I know very little about you so i judge on whats written before me and the actions that follow.

Nothing wrong with helping Ryan. Ryan best of luck!!!
Tsteele93 - Perhaps its a character flaw in which you turn your back when scared or abandon when in doubt. Either way you and i will never share a fox hole....

tsteele93 said:
Great advice! I got into a tizzy once (or twice?) here on the forum and Dave sent me some good advice about stepping back from it. So I spent the next day building a 405 and tried to stay off the forum for a little bit.

When I started posting again, I found that most everyone had pretty much moved on to another drama show and forgotten (mostly) about mine.

Plus, I had a successful 405 build under my belt.

Then I tore that down to steal the driver for a 660 LPC-826 build and killed about eleventy seven 405 diodes trying to get the other one back together and... Well, that's another story.

But yeah, good advice!

tsteele93 · May 10, 2012

DarkSide said:
Interesting thread to be honest. Tsteele93 - Hope you realize you could have accomplished the same outcome by supporting young Ryan ( whom i have no issues with ) with out a single mention of one Moderator commenting in this thread , he's comments, and opinion. Your entitled to disagree with this person and Mod and address your concerns. Problem is your approach. You make directed insinuations, BS comments on he's faux pas and just plain rude. Unfortunately its not a surprise to me and not the first. A few folks here may have seen a first glimpse. I know very little about you so i judge on whats written before me and the actions that follow.

Nothing wrong with helping Ryan. Ryan best of luck!!!

You forgot Moh... Or were you afraid to mention him?

And I'm sure Dave was able to read my comments in their proper context. I did not make insinuations. I agreed with him on much of his post. I simply pointed out that I felt too much was being made of the AlertPay deal.

Dave is a grown man and he and I have spoken by PM before on a variety of subjects here on the forum. He has even given me valuable advice which I have taken to heart regarding the forum. He knows where I was coming from. Not sure how you could read those posts differently.

Best wishes!

Darkside said:
Tsteele93 - Perhaps its a character flaw in which you turn your back when scared or abandon when in doubt. Either way you and i will never share a fox hole....

Hmm, no. It couldn't be a character flaw, I don't have any of those! :crackup: seriously, WTH are you talking about. That doesn't even make sense?!? Are you on drugs? :thinking:

EDIT: I just realized what you quoted. That was a post in which I agreed with wannaburn and mentioned that Dave had helped me out once with some excellent advice so I really have no idea what insinuations you read into that???

Me said:
Great advice! I got into a tizzy once (or twice?) here on the forum and Dave sent me some good advice about stepping back from it. So I spent the next day building a 405 and tried to stay off the forum for a little bit.

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