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Sunburn PHR-803T - pics of the guts

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Hi,

A few people requested to see the insides if my 1xCR123A PHR-803T build. So here you go.

Start with one Deal Extreme MTE 6watt 2-mode 1xCR123A Cree flashlight, or something similar. Unscrew the bezel, remove the glass, and reflector. Unscrew and remove the Cree star from the aluminum base it's screwed into. Take the red wire that used to attach to the emitter and solder it to the + input of the drlava flexdrive. Use one of the screws that used to hold the emitter to the aluminum base. Wrap a black wire around that screw, and screw it down back into the aluminum base. Solder that black wire to the - input of the drlava flexdrive. The rest is straightforward: + leg of PHR-803T diode to + side of flexdrive output, - leg of diode to - side of flexdrive output.

I wrapped some electrical tape around the flexdrive after getting it all set, to prevent any shorting. I also put some hot glue around the + and - wires coming from the light so they didn't break off while getting everything arranged inside the head.

Pic one: You can see the red and black wire from the light. The red wire came with the light, used to be attached to the emitter. The black wire is what I screwed into the aluminum baseplate on the light using the same screw and screw-hole that the emitter used.
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Pic two: I made a thin plastic spacer to go between the Aixis module and the flexdrive. The plan was to use this as a place for my aluminum heatsinking bars to sit without falling too far down below the head.
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Pic three and four: I don't have access to a lathe. So, I improvised my heat sink and I'm fairly proud of the results. I used a 1/4" thick pure aluminum bar (available at most hardware stores). I cut it into 1/2" length nuggets and filed each one down to fit very snugly between the Aixis module and the body of the flashlight. The tighter the fit, the better heat is conducted away. I think this is a good solution for people out there that don't have other means to make a heat sink.
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Pic five: All closed up and looking pretty. I made an aluminum disk from a 1/16" thick aluminum sheet (also available at your hardware store). I used the glass from the flashlight as a template and then drilled out the middle. I removed the gasket from the flashlight bezel to aid in the conduction of heat from the aluminum bars, through the disk, into the bezel. It all fits nice and tight, but not so tight that anything is in danger of bending or breaking.
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AAAAAAAAGH FUDGE!!! The diode is dead. I pushed the envelope and paid for it. :( :( :( :( :(

Sh*t. After all that work. I am so SO dissapointed.

Agh. This stinks. That thing was insane. Now dead.
 
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It was working fine. Popping balloons, burning stuff. Was I satisfied? NOOO, I just had to go and turn it up even further.

Others, learn from my experience. If it's working, leave it alone.
 
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How high did you turn it up? There are quite a few of us running at notably high current right now..

Also make sure your battery is not low(near 2.5v).. my open-can red with a flexdrive goes dim or shuts off altogether around 2.55-2.62v battery voltage.
 

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Glaserfan said:
How high did you turn it up? There are quite a few of us running at notably high current right now..

Also make sure your battery is not low(near 2.5v).. my open-can red with a flexdrive goes dim or shuts off altogether around 2.55-2.62v battery voltage.


How high how high!!!! We want to know!
 
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airy52 said:
[quote author=Glaserfan link=1214091930/0#4 date=1214100892]How high did you turn it up? There are quite a few of us running at notably high current right now..

Also make sure your battery is not low(near 2.5v).. my open-can red with a flexdrive goes dim or shuts off altogether around 2.55-2.62v battery voltage.


How high how high!!!! We want to know![/quote]

After 125ma I stopped measuring and went by temperature instead, which didn't work out so well.
 

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Well at least you still have your build.The work wasn't for nothing , you can still replace the diode. :-/
 
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How high do you think that you went?

I am very interested, maybe your diode's death will not be vain, it will be saviour of many future 803t diodes, a legend among the blu-ray fans! :p

Sorry to hear about your loss though, you have no extras?

thanks
brtaman
 
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yes, please more details. That's how everyone here learns... by others mistakes :) (or their own mistakes.. I've killed 3 of those poor blu-ray diodes)

Were you actively adjusting the driver when it went out, or did you have it at a set level at which it burned itself out while using it?

Any guess about how far the pot was turned? I thought 3/4 up would be ok, because I thought the high end was 150ma. Turns out 3/4 of the way up was 190ma.
 
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apex007 said:
[quote author=airy52 link=1214091930/0#5 date=1214101710][quote author=Glaserfan link=1214091930/0#4 date=1214100892]How high did you turn it up? There are quite a few of us running at notably high current right now..

Also make sure your battery is not low(near 2.5v).. my open-can red with a flexdrive goes dim or shuts off altogether around 2.55-2.62v battery voltage.


How high how high!!!! We want to know![/quote]

After 125ma I stopped measuring and went by temperature instead, which didn't work out so well. [/quote]
Is 125mA safe? I want to turn it up to 135mA, but maybe not...
 
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Mine has been running at 150mA for about 5 days now without problems. I've put maybe an hour and a half on it, with more than 50 on-off cycles:)
 
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Glaserfan said:
Mine has been running at 150mA for about 5 days now without problems. I've put maybe an hour and a half on it, with more than 50 on-off cycles:)
That was reassuring :D
 
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I turned it on, popped some balloons, it was fine. I turned it on, shined it around, it was fine. I turned it on, and it was dead, just a faint purple pattern on the wall. The DrLava drive comes set at the halfway point on the potentiometer. At the point the diode died, I had the pot turned another quarter-turn past the midpoint. I don't have any current measurements.

Anyone know where I can get another PHR-803T diode now that the geeks.com source has dried up?

I want to rebuild this again, and this time I will measure the current the right way, between the driver and the diode instead of at the battery end.

One thing I will say is that wherever it was when it died, I could see the purple beam in daylight. It was faint, but I could see it. It also popped balloons instantly from 20 to 30 feet away.
 
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apex007 said:
I turned it on, popped some balloons, it was fine. I turned it on, shined it around, it was fine. I turned it on, and it was dead, just a faint purple pattern on the wall. The DrLava drive comes set at the halfway point on the potentiometer. At the point the diode died, I had the pot turned another quarter-turn past the midpoint. I don't have any current measurements.

Anyone know where I can get another PHR-803T diode now that the geeks.com source has dried up?

I want to rebuild this again, and this time I will measure the current the right way, between the driver and the diode instead of at the battery end.

One thing I will say is that wherever it was when it died, I could see the purple beam in daylight. It was faint, but I could see it. It also popped balloons instantly from 20 to 30 feet away.
That was probably around 200mA...
Is 130mA safe?
 
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Switch said:
Well at least you still have your build.The work wasn't for nothing , you can still replace the diode. :-/

That's the one thing that keeps me from feeling totally awful about frying this diode. If I can find another sled, I can rebuild it pretty quickly. At a lower current of course.
 




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