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The point is it doesn't _need_ protection. There is literally no way you could damage it short of sending higher voltages into the RX pin, and if you're using a plain ol USB-TTL adapter, it's not gonna happen.
Jerry includes a USB-TLL adapter with the LPM's, if the included adapter is used then all will be fine, and in the case of the 2.5W USB it has it built in.


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Jerry includes a USB-TLL adapter with the LPM's, if the included adapter is used then all will be fine, and in the case of the 2.5W USB it has it built in.
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And then even in the WORST case scenario, if someone plugged a LaserBee straight into a serial port, damage still could not occur.

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My bet is that he will flee this thread like he did the last one. Honestly I am unsure why he bothered posting in this one at all. I figured we would see a thread of waiting for an official reply....still think it might turn into that.

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It's a good question.......me as a laser user looking buy another LPM, if I buy a Laserbee can I use 3rd party software (not firmware) without voiding the warrantee?
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Please be advised that this disclaimer is for Legal reasons and
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J.BAUER Electronics is the sole designer and manufacturer of all
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This or any future unauthorized 3rd part mimicking of our Intellectual
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I usually just skim through legal disclaimers, I missed this detail entirely.

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Did you miss the subject of this thread? It is about interface software, and NOT firmware.
That legal disclaimer is entirely irrelevant to this thread.

P.S. You forgot to add a ™ when you mentioned LaserBee in the last sentence of the legal disclaimer.

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My bet is that he will flee this thread like he did the last one. Honestly I am unsure why he bothered posting in this one at all. I figured we would see a thread of waiting for an official reply....still think it might turn into that.

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You know, Jerry is a businessman. He probably has a much busier life than many of do here. Just a reminder that this is the internet, and its silly to say someone has fled a thread just because they don't seem to spend a large amount of time on the web.

There are 4-5 threads here that he has been expected to be fully present in at all times.
Well, he already took the time to type out a nice, long reply to the OP... and skirted around the issue entirely.

I suppose in doing that he's already proven my conclusion, but we might as well keep the thread alive and wait for him to respond.

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He's been commenting in the Pergerine thread, and avoided the questions and comments directed to him there.

He commented in my thread about the accuracy of LaserBee's and answered every question with a very long reply and didn't respond to the one big question:
Are his TEC based LPM's are individually curve adjusted?

He commented in this thread with a very long reply and didn't answer the one question the thread had:
Can the LaserBee's be damaged from reading serial data? If so, how?

Those are very short questions and the answer can be as simple as a yes or no statement.

Every time someone raises a good question/comment about his products or one that would be undesirable for him to answer it seems like he avoids it entirely and skirts around the main issue at hand.

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sooo, who want's to sell me a LPM ?
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Well everyone here has flame wars about which lpm is better, so i want someone to sell me a lpm for a good price i don't even know who to buy from anymore.
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Well everyone here has flame wars about which lpm is better, so i want someone to sell me a lpm for a good price i don't even know who to buy from anymore.
There's other options besides LaserBee and myself. The BlueFan basic is a cheap, good LPM.

If you don't want to buy from anyone at all:
You can easily DIY your own LPM with an Ophir head and a multimeter, pre calibrated and very easy to set up. If you ever want to add data logging you can do that DIY as well (link in my sig)

You can also DIY a TEC based LPM if you have a laser of a known power output, check out MarioMasters 50$ DIY LPM thread or my Open source LPM (link in my sig)

Edit: I should also say, this is not a flamewar. There's just been a few things brought up recently about accuracy and third party software that need to be addressed.

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There's other options besides LaserBee and myself. The BlueFan basic is a cheap, good LPM.

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Edit: I should also say, this is not a flamewar. There's just been a few things brought up recently about accuracy and third party software that need to be addressed.
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Interesting... today I learned that open-source software to read from LaserBees has been around since 2008.

OpenBee Alpha Test #1

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^^free market in action. Wrong thread.
Well... we hold laser sellers' feet to the fire here at LPF. I feel like with an issue like this one, it would be a disservice to LPF not to.

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Interesting. I wonder why Jerry never went after OpenBee, but instead goes after Pergerine that helps add native support for MacOSX on his products.
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