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But I (J.BAUER Electronics) do have an objection to anyone
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LaserBees output a simple serial datastream representing power readings. To be quite frank, it is the customer's choice as to what software to use to read it - be it EagleEye, the Arduino terminal, or Peregrine.

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@ Trevor... I'm sure you could work on a Kenometer or Radiant
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Peregrine will support those too, yes.

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Well this is awkward...

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I contacted our business lawyer yesterday to set up
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I'll post back here after the meeting...

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Good. If you had set up a consult to talk about just this, you'd be wasting your money. When Apple tried to control how their users use their devices, the courts ruled against them.

As for the rest of you that support the project... thank you! Now that I'm back in town, I'll work on getting the source cleaned up so I can upload the current alpha build.

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LaserBees output a simple serial datastream representing power readings. To be quite frank, it is the customer's choice as to what software to use to read it - be it EagleEye, the Arduino terminal, or Peregrine.



Peregrine will support those too, yes.



Well this is awkward...



Good. If you had set up a consult to talk about just this, you'd be wasting your money. When Apple tried to control how their users use their devices, the courts ruled against them.

As for the rest of you that support the project... thank you! Now that I'm back in town, I'll work on getting the source cleaned up so I can upload the current alpha build.

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Good point.
Go for it.

Hell, my qtDMM also saw Laserbee output in mV... does that mean that qtDMM will be in trouble too. How can you regulate a non encrypted (serial) output? Did we hack a driver?
Good luck at the Lawyers office. I think I know the answer. Sorry you're SOL.
Don't know what to say.
Trevor, thank you for helping out the MacOS community!
btw, you wouldn't happen to have the Peregrine source files by any chance.
I'd like to try my hand at coding as well.
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Link: http://raptureinnovations.com/projec...rine_0_2_1.zip

You'll need to get the controlP5 library.

For record, this is uncommented and rather unorganized and, well, currently downright bad. But uploaded, because you want to play with it.

Have fun... I'll upload a cleaner and commented version here in the next couple days.

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There is absolutely no legal leg to stand on in regards to stopping software that you don't own the IP to from working with a product your customers own when using it.

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Default Re: Laserbee raw output now visible in OSX environment

SURPRISE

saber rattling, over making an open sourced multi-LPM program.

Wow.. stoop to new lows?
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Because that would require additional work for the developer, which may not be worth the effort for such a small market segment. The developer would probably need to buy a Mac, and go through the extra effort of making it compatible with OSX, learn GUI toolkits or be forced to use wrappers, learn to properly accessing data sources such as ports, make an installer for that platform, etc. All that may only win a few more customers, who probably already use Windows software emulators for the other software that doesn't run on Macs.
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Just a little video showing the response time of the ULPM Peregrine software in action.
This is running in MacOSX 10.7.3.
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S_L: One thing I notice in your video is that your COM ports are showing up as more than just "COM1," "COM3," etc.

Can you provide a screenshot with the COM port dropdown expanded so I can figure out a solution for this?

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S_L: One thing I notice in your video is that your COM ports are showing up as more than just "COM1," "COM3," etc.

Can you provide a screenshot with the COM port dropdown expanded so I can figure out a solution for this?

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Yes. Here it is in action.
This is the screenshot.mov, showing that the serial list is actually cut off at the bottom. Menu is squished together.
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I was getting that COM information as well.

That means your device is not properly installed with the correct drivers. I had the same issue with the arduino. But as I said before I reinstalled the RXTX.dll files and added the arduino drivers to my computer and I could get it to compile.

You might have to do the same. Is there a way in OSX to check the COM ports?
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Actually, the device is seen without any problems. MacOSX makes available all devices on the bus. Every serial program in MacOSX also shows the same information as well. No error. the serial driver for the USB-RS232 adapter is seen fine. I have graphing working.
It's just that the workspace in Peregine is far too small.
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Default Re: Laserbee raw output now visible in OSX environment

If the device was seen properly (speaking from windows experience only) it should be dislaying the device name on the COM port from device manager. If it does not know what the device is, it will understand there is something connected to the port, and use that as its default name.
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Default Re: Laserbee raw output now visible in OSX environment

Actually the driver for the supplied RS232 to USB
will only display serial port adapter as the name. In the system info in MacOSX
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Default Re: Laserbee raw output now visible in OSX environment

S_L I just got home... If you wanna change the size of the work area in Peregrine, go to GUI and under GUISetup() there is a setting for size. Change that to set the working area size.

I'm working on centering the frame to the work area, that way you can resize the work area and still have all dimensions the same.

@ trevor... it would be wise to not use static values for positions.... I know this is a prototype and hasn't even hit alpha version yet... but would make it a lot easier later down the line.
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Default Re: Laserbee raw output now visible in OSX environment

Actually in the MacOS version only "the source" shows a GUIsetup(). I was hoping to edit the actual program its self.
However, in Processing the file that Trevor posted wants ControlP5 in a library but won't recognize the file. Can't run the changes to the program.
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