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Flashlight Beamshots Collection

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I was outside late tonight, so grabbed my camera, a few lights and snapped a few pictures... these were done fairly fast so as not to alarm my neighbors :p

My camera makes things look a whole lot brighter than they are... but the way the flashlights light things up should be easily apparent.

The fire hydrant, light pole, and fist branches are at a distance of about 45 meters.

The higher tree branches are at a distance of about 75 meters.

[3/28/13 - Updated, more beamshots below.]

First, the control shot:

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Next the Armytek Predator v2, XPG2, this is a great pocket thrower:

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Next the Crelant 7G2CS, NW - As much throw as you can get in an XML pocket light - which is to say it's "Regular" :

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Last, the Throw King of them all, Crelant 7G5CS, modded to run at ~3A, with a de-domed XMLU3, and an Aspheric Head:

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I feel confident this light will outthrow everything out there, as far as LED flashlights go, with the exception of the modded, TN31mb (Link) and the Deft X (Link). Both are way more expensive though, one being roughly double the price, the other more than quadruple.

If you look at this picture form the Deft X, you'll see it has the same beam pattern... link.

So there you have it. Three distinct beam flashlight beam patterns.

[3/28/13 - Updated, with more beamshots.]

There are three new lights in the lineup, a 7G3CS XMLU3, an Eagletac G25C2 MarkII XMLU2, and a stock Crelant 7G5CS XMLT6 also with aspheric.

For comparison purposes the modded Crelant 7G5CS Aspheric with better driver, and dedomed XMLU3 is again at the end.

Photos didn't come out quite as good this time... I was rushing a bit too much I guess.

Control:
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Crelant 7G3CS U3:
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Eagletac G25C2 MarkII:
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Stock Crelant 7G5CS, XML-T6, with Aspheric:
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Crelant 7G5CS Modded:
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Re: Flashlight Beamshots; Throw, Regular, and Aspheric

That U3 , that is some of the most clean flashlight beamshots even seen :beer:

+1.21 if i can!! :beer:
 
Re: Flashlight Beamshots; Throw, Regular, and Aspheric

Nice shoots I really like that last one.
 
Re: Flashlight Beamshots; Throw, Regular, and Aspheric

Damn i've been resisting buying the Crelant 7G5CS for a while now and you just made it a lot harder :P
Would you say with the aespheric head that it throws further than your TK75?
 
Re: Flashlight Beamshots; Throw, Regular, and Aspheric

Sorry was that a laser or a flashlight in the last pic? ;) Nice job on the mod! :) Just curious, what does de-doming actually improve? From what Ive read it changes the tint and you dont collect as much light? :thinking: Have you also compared the std 7G5CS with the modded one? :beer: and +1 if I can...
 
Re: Flashlight Beamshots; Throw, Regular, and Aspheric

Nice pictures. Thanks for the test. The king of the throw is actually a laser. :D
 
Re: Flashlight Beamshots; Throw, Regular, and Aspheric

Damn i've been resisting buying the Crelant 7G5CS for a while now and you just made it a lot harder :P
Would you say with the aespheric head that it throws further than your TK75?

With the aspheric, stock, no mods, it will easily out throw the TK75. Of the two the TK is way, way more practical, and 600 meters of throw is plenty though.

Sorry was that a laser or a flashlight in the last pic? ;) Nice job on the mod! :) Just curious, what does de-doming actually improve? From what Ive read it changes the tint and you dont collect as much light? :thinking: Have you also compared the std 7G5CS with the modded one? :beer: and +1 if I can...

Credit for the mod goes to Darkside - I can't dedome an LED to save my life :p

Basically the shape of the dome magnifies the size of the LED somewhat - or at least of the way light is emitted from it, and it also eats up some lumens, not many but some. De-doming, it's almost like you get a more efficient, smaller LED. The downside is, there are more artifacts from the dome removal, so the spot/beam look dirtier. I wish it was possible to buy perfectly de-domed LEDs.

I'll see about getting you guys a comparison of the stock and the modded. The modded one is brighter and tighter, but it is not as clean as stock.

Nice pictures. Thanks for the test. The king of the throw is actually a laser. :D

Heh, we were just talking about that... a laser will absolutely outthrow the lights. The problem is, there aren't really any white handheld lasers yet, aside maybe from the one multimode is working on. If you don't care about having white light though, defocus a green, or blue laser and you're in a whole new category.

Anyone know where the cheapest XML2 leds can be bought?
 
Re: Flashlight Beamshots; Throw, Regular, and Aspheric

I found the XM-L2 U2's for sale here (they will be arriving at the beginning of April...)

AFAIK Fasttech only has the XM-L2 T6's in stock? :beer:

Edit: I also ordered a few copper sinkpads to go with them and will be building a few direct drives...;) :eg:
 
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Re: Flashlight Beamshots; Throw, Regular, and Aspheric

Ahh, nice! Thanks guys.

I ordered from them many times now, they are a good seller... not perfect, but one of the best imo.

Question - I haven't really bothered to read up on CRI, and temperature - what is better?

Edit, I guess, the higher CRI and temperature the better.
 
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Re: Flashlight Beamshots; Throw, Regular, and Aspheric

Ive only done a little reading on it, but the CRI is better with the N1ch1da LED's CRI is also better with the more yellow LEDs. The one I linked is apparently 6500 K so quite blue shifted, but no more than the U2 T6 (7000 K) or in fact the XML U3.
 
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Re: Flashlight Beamshots; Throw, Regular, and Aspheric

Hmm, I'll have to look into the n1ch1a LED's... any reason they aren't used in more lights instead of the Cree XML's? Much higher price, lower output?
 
Re: Flashlight Beamshots; Throw, Regular, and Aspheric

I feel confident this light will outthrow everything out there, as far as LED flashlights go, with the exception of the modded, TN31mb (Link) and the Deft X (Link). Both are way more expensive though, one being roughly double the price, the other more than quadruple.

If you look at this picture form the Deft X, you'll see it has the same beam pattern... link.

So there you have it. Three distinct beam flashlight beam patterns.

Excellent beams shots--thanks for doing!

Appears that the Crelant 7G5GS is an excellent and lower cost alternative, especially if you do not actually need the 1273 meter throw of the TN31mb or 1897 meter throw of the Deft X---not many real world applications where those extreme throw distances are required.
 
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Re: Flashlight Beamshots; Throw, Regular, and Aspheric

Excellent beams shots--thanks for doing!

Appears that the Crelant 7G5GS is an excellent and lower cost alternative, especially if you do not actually need the 1273 meter throw of the TN31mb or 1897 meter throw of the Deft X---not many real world applications where those extreme throw distances are required.

Yup, it is. The TN31mb and especially the DeftX are way out of my pricerange. The crelants, I managed to pick up two for $67 each, and the heads for $28 each. The newer version is available for $130 as a package deal IIRC.

The thing that also attracted me the the crelants, is I can swap the aspheric and regular head, and have a regular light, though still with a lot of throw. The ramping means I can turn it down if it's getting too warm.

Nice flashlights-I love them

Thanks :)
 
Re: Flashlight Beamshots; Throw, Regular, and Aspheric

De-doming, it's almost like you get a more efficient, smaller LED.

Don't mean to nitpick, but dedoming makes the LED less efficient, BUT it makes it appear smaller, aka more point-like. That is what people are going for when they dedome their LEDs. The best emitter will have the highest "surface brightness," or surface lux. Lasers have ridiculously high "surface brightness," and I'd be willing to bet that the next thrower will involve either lasers, or imaging a laser pumped phosphor target

The dome's primary hand in increasing extraction efficiency is by ensuring that a high percentage of light coming from the source hits the surface of the dome at an angle close to natural, or at least larger than the critical angle for that particular optical interface (some sort of silicone and air).

Last, but definitely not least, great work with the final product! I think you have enough throwy lights, it is now time for you to become a tint snob. Try a Nichia from csshih.
 





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