100 Watt HID Mod! Estimated 8000 Lumens!

Following a tutorial posted on CPF:
100W HID Mod, Est 8000 Lumen, Est Price: Just over $200.00 USD

...I built one of these mods for a customer, and I think I may have to build one for myself now!

The tutorial links parts, and shows how to insulate the metal reflector to keep the heat away from the inner workings.

* I followed the tutorial mostly the same, but I used JB weld to glue the heat shield material to the metal reflector instead of duct tape.

* And I mounted the ballast on the side of the light instead of at the bottom. (customer asked me to see if the legs can be kept in tact)





Here's some pictures of the mod I did, and some beam shots as well!












This thing is unbelievable!

Had to show it...






Here's some interesting information on HID vs Halogen:

Lighting from an HID bulb is up to 10 times more durable than halogen. Vibrations can cause damage to a halogen filament, but there is nothing to break inside an HID bulb. Instead of using a filament as it's source of light output, an hid bulb generates a xenon arc that jumps between two diodes to emit its light output. This electrical arc is similar to the lighting in the sky, so in a sense, hid xenon bulbs are what you might call "lightning in a bottle!" Pretty cool huh?!! These light sources also produce a white to blue-white light in the 4300K to 6000K color range that is safer due to the fact that it is closer to the color of natural daylight.

The color temperature of daylight is close to 4300K, which is why we as human beings that see best during the daylight are able to see more vividly with a 4300K hid kit compared to 2300K from halogen bulbs.

The light output from a 35W 4300K HID Xenon lamp is about 300% more visible light than a 55W halogen bulb.

And this build is 100 Watts HID! :drool:

HID also consumes much less power, and generates much less heat during operation...






Also, I'm in the process of building a 75 Watt HID in a Mag host!

It will be using 3 X Feilong 6000mAh 32650’s because you need 12 volts...

From what I have read, the ebay HID flashlights are not great for 'throw', but are 'flood type'.

I plan on trying to get a great 'thrower' for my mod.

It’s going to be a custom build using aluminum tubing to adapt the round ballast to the Mag host. Because the ballast is a little larger in diameter than the mag barrel...

I will use an aluminum reflector, and a borofloat glass lens to handle heat.

Should be a week or two, and I will have the first build.

It should be awesome...

Edit: Finished the Mag mod shown here:
http://laserpointerforums.com/f66/75-watt-hid-mag-mod-estimated-5000-lumens-74724.html







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Damn that's awesome! Looks like a huge white laser

Wow that is a great beam!! You always do great work Jay!

Holly shiz! what a beast of a unit, can it light a match?

That's the thing...

So much output, but relatively little heat! I put my thumb right on the glass, and it still took maybe 2 minutes before the glass got too warm to keep my thumb on it.

Sure it will get pretty warm, but not what I would call 'Hot' for this much light. I built a 100 Watt Halogen light, and it was so hot that it would light a ball of newspaper in about 10 seconds.

But no where near the luminosity of this 100 Watt HID build.

And of course if you used a magnifying glass, I'm sure you could light a match...

mikeox said:

Wow that is a great beam!! You always do great work Jay!

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:thanks:

Glad you like it...

All the time and effort you put in all your builds , and show them to us in the form of pictures i know its easier to look at the pictures, but the amount of work is extensive, and very technical.. you do set the bar higher everytime.. I always wanted to own such a light even bought xenon arc, ignitor , ballast etc.. but couldnt untill now, I'm definitely going to do this now!!!! Thanks for the motivation.. I needed that!

jayrob said:

Instead of using a filament as it's source of light output, an hid bulb generates a xenon arc that jumps between two diodes to emit its light output.

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Lasers on the mind?

Yes that is so cool about HID! It's an arc between two probes, that glows the gas inside a sealed bubble. And the 4300K color (personal choice for this), is so intensely bright, that it's like daylight...

sinner said:

All the time and effort you put in all your builds , and show them to us in the form of pictures i know its easier to look at the pictures, but the amount of work is extensive, and very technical.. you do set the bar higher everytime.. I always wanted to own such a light even bought xenon arc, ignitor , ballast etc.. but couldnt untill now, I'm definitely going to do this now!!!! Thanks for the motivation.. I needed that!

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:thanks:

I just followed the tutorial posted by stollman on CPF...

I really only changed a couple of things. But I do think it's a lot cleaner to mount the ballast on the side and counter balance it by battery position as shown in my pictures.

I want to somehow find a nice HID set up that I can put into a Maglite now!

I really like the intensity of the 'arc'...

Generally speaking, 4300k also shows the highest efficacy :wave:

@John Capelo: You don't want to see what short-arc HID lamps can do if you think that this has laser-like focus. But if you do, google maxabeam, a well-known production short-arc handheld.

Random tidbits:
For a while, 35W HID kits were offered with an "H3C" bulb, which had the advantage of a very small bulb and a transverse arc (only advantageous if you are trying to replace a transverse filament), with the drawback of no outer uv stop envelope and higher risk of exploding.

The Philips 85122 gained such popularity that China began producing fakes that were extremely difficult to discern from genuine Philips. (85122 is the standard D2S bulb used in many automotive HID systems)

an HID arc is brightest right where it meets one of the electrodes, and is dimmer in the center. The arc varies in color temperature depending on what part of the arc you are looking at. These effects are actually taken into account when designing optics for automotives equipped with HIDs, to ensure conformance with luminance laws and avoid strange colored areas in the final beam.

HIDs are often called Xenon bulbs, however the main role of xenon is only to allow the bulb to produce usable light during the warmup period of operation.

You can certainly light matches with HID's... See THIS youtube clip..

You can light matches with any light source provided you can focus it or it's powerful enough

Haha, AUS, just noticed you're practically living in my backyard

Yes Things, yes I am... just over the border. I noticed a while ago but didn't say anything in case you thought I was stalking you

We should shine a laser homing beacon in the air and see if we can see eachother lol :can:

Haha that could be interesting

Wonder who would get arrested first?

What general area of Albury are you? I'm sorta right beside huon hill but looks like I would have a clear line of sight

Yes, I'm closer to the airport than you so they would probably arrest me first! I'm very close to the Albury Golf Course - we probably almost would a line of sight!.

I'll have an argon soon, any 488nm light you see will be me

Explanation for those that don't get it, we are both on the New South Wales / Victorian border about 5km apart, I'm on the NSW side and Things is on the VIC side.

OK, I see a few golf courses in Albury, but both are pretty much directly North of me

I'd have to go up the end of the street though, and it's freezing out there tonight!