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Default Re: Wicked Lasers 445nm Goggles specs

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According to the graph in the PDF, the transmission at 445nm is around 11%. That makes about OD 1. These goggles would pass 100mW of a 1W laser. There's not even a laser safety standard like ANSI 136.1 or EN207 mentioned.
I believe that is approximately what the measured tests showed as well. Not sure where the link is now, but read the results of a measured test which showed roughly 10% (was actually over 10%) get through their goggles.

Measured test measured the S3 at approximately 960mw as I recall (one of the higher ones I've seen). Shine it through the glasses and measuring on the other side showed about 120mw still getting through as I recall. I'll have to see if I can find the actual post with the test results and pics etc... but that sure fits with what we're seeing from their spec sheet.

For those that don't know Wicked Lasers states that you need OD 4.4+ to safely use their laser. They advertised on their website that their safety goggles were OD 5+. The first goggles shipped out were also stamped with a rating of OD5+ directly on the goggle lenses. It appears they have since removed this rating from the goggles and most likely from their website as well. This is very directly a liability issue for them if they claim these goggles are OD5+ and will protect their uses, especially if the lenses themselves are stamped with OD5. If anyone gets harmed by a lasershot in the eye with these goggles that were supposed to "protect" them then Wicked Lasers is absolutely liable. That being said they are a chinese based company so not sure how much you can do other than get them banned for import into the US.


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Default Re: Wicked Lasers 445nm Goggles specs

I finnaly Recieved my Arctic s3 G2..and safety goggles.. I recieved two pair of goggles.. one being some POS.. see low power dot blue.. the other goggles were marked ARG #35 even had Certification EN207 for the 445nm OD 7+ now those i know work. my arctic on high dont see blue and can barely see the dot
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I finnaly Recieved my Arctic s3 G2..and safety goggles.. I recieved two pair of goggles.. one being some POS.. see low power dot blue.. the other goggles were marked ARG #35 even had Certification EN207 for the 445nm OD 7+ now those i know work. my arctic on high dont see blue and can barely see the dot
I just don´t believe you. Maybe you´re from Wickedlasers. Show us vids pls.
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Default Re: Wicked Lasers 445nm Goggles specs

I only have these two goggles. can't do video or pic w/o wearing a decent pair.. and not gunna use the POS pair..
no, i'm not from wicked.. i'm In Chicago,
If i was from wicked I bet I'd get my laser faster than 3months
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w/o goggles

through WL provided ARG goggles
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Have you paid the extra cash to get the better ones? Is this first pic with the training lense?

Your goggles look much more red than mine. Maybe other cam-settings?
Please confirm that you received the same WL goggles I got.
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Default Re: Wicked Lasers 445nm Goggles specs

yea I got the POS (Piece of SHEET)goggles. and I also ordered an extra pair.. the POS goggles on LOW the dot is blue.. and pretty bright.. with these. the one in which i took the pic through you can see. they block alot of light. they look the same as OEM laser systems ARG #35.. and these are actually marked as ARG#35
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You mean this one?
Green 532nm LaserShields Goggles

They say OD 2+ for the 445nm wavelength.
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those are the POS ones.. not marked at all... i got another pair.. besides that one
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the first pic is w/o any lens.. can burn on high like that
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Like the one I got from OEM laser? How much extra did you pay for them?

Anyway, the point is that goggles which came with the Arctic (and 99% of the Arctic orders) are total crap!
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those two pics were like 40 feet from the laser across my parking garage, on the concrete wall, the line is about an inch-ish long
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Odd. I measured ~20mW passed through from a ~950mW Arctic with the googles I got from them, on a Kenometer Pro in this post Two WL Spyder 3 Arctics Measured

I'll re-measure and see if there are any differences. Just to confirm.
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11% ??

Didn't someone here PHYSICALLY METER theier goggles @ 9mW through the Arctic Lasershields?
That's WAY less than 11% unless their LPM was off by a factor of 10. (unlikely)
I think WL just failed at taking transmission measurements.
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OK, I spoke with someone who knows about ANSI & CE standards and here is what he told me. ANSI Z80.3 and CE EN1836 are standards for SUNGLASSES. The standards for laser protection are ANSI Z87 and CE EN207. I'm going to approach WL on this; but meanwhile you should use only certified protective eyewear when using your 445nm or other lasers. Thanks, Bill
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I though laser protection was ANSI Z136 for the american standard. The european is indeed EN207 for full protection and EN208 for alignment. EN60825 also exists but I think EN207 was recommended instead when possible.
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