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Old 06-16-2010, 03:22 AM #17
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Default Re: Nova lasers Atlantis 445nm!

I am not a fan of side buttons....

And I agree that the Atlantis host is kind of boring compared to the arctic Spyder.

I still think that I might get a Wicked Laser Arctic in a few months (when the orders are caught up and if they still have them)


But it is good that there is another company selling these....

I just wish Wicked Lasers glasses were Certified like Nova lasers....


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Default Re: Nova lasers Atlantis 445nm!

The CR123s are a dealbreaker for me. The thing I like about the Spyder (other than the way it looks :P) is the fact that it uses an 18650.
Which I have assloads of.

If it takes an 18650, then I'm totally getting this instead. Ze goggles! Zey DO something!

But, like a noob, I will post first and search later.
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Default Re: Nova lasers Atlantis 445nm!

@BB: Yes, CNI produces the alphas. They're PGL-As.
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Default Re: Nova lasers Atlantis 445nm!

I still await the day someone will make a 445nm 1W laser in a sonic screwdriver host...
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Default Re: Nova lasers Atlantis 445nm!

This is interesting for me:

WL Spyder: 228mm x 35.8mm
NL Atlantis: 199mm X 23mm


Also for $40 extra (a total of $187+$40 = $227) you can buy certified googles, and this is not a minor detail.

As NL website says:

"Always use ANSI and CE Certified laser safety eyewear!
All laser safety goggles sold by Novalasers are MADE IN USA, are ANSI and CE certified.
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I think it`s time to wait some weeks until the reviews start going on, so there will be the best time to buy.

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Are these being provided by CNI? If not, I wonder where they get that host, because I actually like that host a bit for its safety features.
They get the hosts from CNI. CNI doesn't produce 445nm diodes. Besides you can bet that a >500mW 445nm laser will cost more than 2 bills if it came from CNI.

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Yeah, but I just want the hosts.
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Default Re: Nova lasers Atlantis 445nm!

I like that host better too. I like it for it's safety features and that it looks like a serious instrument rather than a novelty or a toy. They must have machined a special mount for the diode because normally that is a DPSS host.

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Looking at kakcoo's pictures from his disassembly of his PGL-III-A, it appears they could have just used some kind of press-fit module.
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This is interesting for me:

WL Spyder: 23mm x 35.8mm
NL Atlantis: 23mm X 20mm

Nearly half the lenght. That would be more important for me than how does the laser appears. Even I think spyder is more ellegant.
The Atlantis measures 23mm x 199 mm or 0.9 in x 7.8 in
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What's with the crap visibility though? Surely >500mW of 445nm is more visible than 75mW of 532nm? It should be. WTF Nova?



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The human eye response is much lower in the blue wavelengths than the green.
For photopic vison (non dark adapted vision) the 532nm green is ~17x brighter than 445nm blue for a given output power, so 1 Watt of 445nm would be about as bright as 60mw of 532nm green. For Scotopic vision (when your eyes are dark adapted; there is a chemical change in the eye after ~15-20 minutes of complete darkness, the resonse shifts to the left somewhat and then 532nm will only be ~4x brighter than 445nm, so 1000mw of 445nm would be equal in visual brightness to ~250mw of 532nm green.
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I do think Nova's spec, charts and timetables are much more honest & realistic than WLs.
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This is interesting for me:

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NL Atlantis: 23mm X 20mm

Nearly half the lenght. That would be more important for me than how does the laser appears. Even I think spyder is more ellegant.

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will be putting out near their max output... and by what I've read...
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I would prefer a larger mass and more surface area offered by the
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shiny surface of the Nova Atlantis...


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I have a spyder 3 pro 532 100mw it averages 180ish really a sweet host has battery meter feels heavy i must get a arctic
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Holy mother of Chuck Norris! NOVAlasers has never been so fast!
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I would prefer a larger mass and more surface area offered by the
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shiny surface of the Nova Atlantis...


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I fully agree with Jerry on this one. Maybe Nova should offer these in 500mW or a little less.

@Jerry, I think you have 405nm in your sig twice
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Hmm, NOVAlasers also claims good specs (2 mrad @ 1.5 mm) for the laser. Perhaps the diode is better than we give credit for.
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