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Old 02-26-2011, 01:01 PM #33
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I'm not calling no one a "noob". You don't have to ask our permission to own a laser, you can just buy. If anyone came here asking "where to buy a 1W laser", either the guy is blind or he is unsure of buying such a high power laser. If you need, you get it. Understood?


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again what I'm trying to say.. people come here having no knowledge in lasers, thinking 1W is a low value, and go trying to get one. Most times they just want some advice, because if they aren't looking for advice, they would just go and buy the laser.


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We love this hobby and want you to enjoy it as well, your misunderstanding us. You come here for advice and your not liking the advice your getting from the experience members like Anselm and Leodahsan, and instead are siding with people who are obviously "new" like yourself...

You can hurt your Vision and not even have to have a "Beam hit your Eyes" With a 1W....

You should Liston to people like "Anselm" They aren't trying to insult you, they were just making a point. And trying to Protect You. 1W should never be someones 1st laser "EVER". You can do what ever you want... Obviously. (and I still truly hope you don't live in the US) I find it hilarious that you ask advice and then argue with the advice your given from experienced members (I'm not talking about my self, I'm still "NEW"). I really agree with there advice tho....
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We love this hobby and want you to enjoy it as well, your misunderstanding us. You come here for advice and your not liking the advice your getting from the experience members like Anselm and Leodahsan, and instead are siding with people who are obviously "new" like yourself...

You can hurt your Vision and not even have to have a "Beam hit your Eyes" With a 1W....

You should Liston to people like "Anselm" They aren't trying to insult you, they were just making a point. And trying to Protect You. 1W should never be someones 1st laser "EVER". You can do what ever you want... Obviously. (and I still truly hope you don't live in the US) I find it hilarious that you ask advice and then argue with the advice your given from experienced members (I'm not talking about my self, I'm still "NEW"). I really agree with there advice tho....
mate, i didn't argue with Anselm for a second, i can't argue with him because i have no idea about lasers.

i respect the guys who take their time and replying on this topic to help me out, this is not an argument.

i came here to ask for advices and general opinions about the products i posted and the 1W lasers field.
i came here to be sure that i'm buying a product and know everything there is to know about it and about the risk involved using it.
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mate, i didn't argue with Anselm for a second, i can't argue with him because i have no idea about lasers.

i respect the guys who take their time and replying on this topic to help me out, this is not an argument.

i came here to ask for advices and general opinions about the products i posted and the 1W lasers field.
i came here to be sure that i'm buying a product and know everything there is to know about it and about the risk involved using it.
thats why i'm here.
Well The advice still stands that you shouldn't get a 1W 445nm as your 1st laser.

Sense you sound like you don't want to heed that advice, Be Very Careful. Thats a powerful Laser. You should ware the Right Goggles made for that nm when your indoors and using it EVER, Or you risk hurting your Eyes and there Light sensitivity. Never look at the dot if your not using Goggles. Even the reflection can Blind You. Never let someone else use the laser, You will be surprised how dumb some people are when there ignorant to it's Power "No pun intended at yourself" All tho it made me chuckle a little....

Be Careful and I still think you should Not Get a 1W as your 1st laser....
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again what I'm trying to say.. people come here having no knowledge in lasers, thinking 1W is a low value, and go trying to get one. Most times they just want some advice, because if they aren't looking for advice, they would just go and buy the laser.
I fully understand. I agree that most people just don't realize how dangerous a 1W(especially in the blue range) is. You know I was on youtube a few day ago loking for videos of the Arctic, on one video a question was posed n the comments:

"Is it OK for me to look at the "dot" while burning something?"<I'm assuming he had an Arctic

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"You should be ok, just don't look at reflections from mirrors, etc"
That question was asked 3 months ago, no doubt that poor kid permanently screwed up his vision if he followed that advice.

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it is not OK to look the dot even when not burning. I looked one time at a dot, 4ft away from me and I got colorblind in the center of my vision.
luckly, it got better, no permanent damage.

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it is not OK to look the dot even when not burning. I looked one time at a dot, 4ft away from me and I got colorblind in the center of my vision.
luckly, it got better, no permanent damage.
You went partially colorblind after one look? I've looked a few times before I started always using my glasses, and have never had any problems. Maybe I just have strong eyes?

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What the noobs are doing? Give me one reason to own a 1W laser.
I got temporarily colorblind after one 'long' look, around 15 seconds. In a white wall near me...
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15 seconds looking at the dot on a white wall, from 4 feet away? Damn, I haven't tried to burn anything, or look at the dot for that long. And especially not on something white, so maybe it'd happen to me if I did it too. But while there isn't a need for a 1W laser, there is a want for one, and as long as you follow the law and safety procedures, there's nothing wrong with that.
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It was my first experimenting and I was considering myself "experienced" in lasers. Well, not on class IV...

Lets be safe ok? No recommending 1W lasers to no one, unless people that had lasers before.
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15 seconds looking at the dot on a white wall, from 4 feet away? Damn, I haven't tried to burn anything, or look at the dot for that long. And especially not on something white, so maybe it'd happen to me if I did it too. But while there isn't a need for a 1W laser, there is a want for one, and as long as you follow the law and safety procedures, there's nothing wrong with that.
Honestly dude, A 1W laser IS dangerous

And No ONE should get a 1W for there 1st laser, I don't get what you don't understand....

Yeah everyone could "WANT" a machine Gun. But if They have never handled a BB gun Before, Do you think that person should get a machine gun?

This is just like that. You need to have "Experience" With lasers to understand the safety involved. It's not just "don't shine the laser at any person". You have to understand that almost ANY surface can reflect enough to permanently harm your eye sight. It's a lot more dangerous than you think.

You can dismiss it off all you want. A 1 W laser is dangerous, and NO New person to lasers should Get one.

You can wait a Little to get used to lasers to then get one LATER. All the experienced members will agree that a 1W should never go to a new person to lasers.


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Just begin with a 50mw laser ---> like me

than higher and higher until 200-300mw and then you have enough expierience
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