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Old 10-31-2010, 01:59 AM #17
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We'll have to see pictures and time will tell, but in my experience with electronics potting epoxy, if this epoxy is in contact with the diode and bonding it in place, it's not going to come off without ruining the diode in the process. there may be some strong solvents that may help, but they will also melt the diode themselves. Not to say that one or two out of a projector could be successfully harvested if the potting epoxy coverage was spotty on some of them, but it's going to mean you may only get a fraction of them out and as soon as Casio gets back a returned projector from a customer who said it was DOA that they determined was tampered with to get the diodes out, then they'll put even more effort into making sure they are not harvestable at all.

Just my opinion, we need pictures to see this.

If too many LD's could get damaged because of casio's measures,
we may just have to give in and start making single 24+W lasers..

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Default Re: Casio seems to be potting projectors

Actually, if it's on the diode, you could soak a brush in Hydrochloric or Boric acid and quickly and carefully brush the epoxy off before the brush dissolves. Just an idea
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If mine have this shit on them I may send the diode arrays out to one of you mad scietist to melt the shit off.
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Default Re: Casio seems to be potting projectors

just drill through it with a diamond coated bit. Easy, fast, and efficient. Brute force never fails. Unfortunately, the same is not true of humans .
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well, it's not surprising manufacturers would take these measures, assuming this is true.

think about it. they likely do not want to make it easy for DIYers and whippersnappers to get access to a 2 watt laser diode.
do we really think they care as long as we are buying the projectors. The press releases, the tri-wing screws and possibly this potting epoxy could just be attempts to show that they are trying to discourage this. They could have put more serious measures in place a long time ago to try and keep us out.

And for the potting epoxy I think a dremel with a small drill bit and some finesse could take care of this.
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What I'd the epoxy is within the diode slot around the pins as well? Are you going to drill through to the diode? I don't think drilling is going to be the answer.
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What I'd the epoxy is within the diode slot around the pins as well? Are you going to drill through to the diode? I don't think drilling is going to be the answer.
You are probably right. But what I was thinking was that pink spacer they put on there to hold the diode center would stop the epoxy from going any further.
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From my readings, It is best not to use the name "C&$10" in any forum posts. I smell lawyer type rats in the alley.

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It might be better (and more convenient) to just buy the diodes from the manufacturer directly.
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We would already be doing this if it were an option.
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I don't get it.

If, as I'd reasonably expect every genuine enthusiast here to be in support of, you don't want to make life harder for ourselves regarding access to these diodes, then why on earth are we all talking about how to get around it all?????

If I were a member of team-Casio and I was out to help their engineers find ways to make life as difficult as possible for enthusiasts making use of their rightfully paid for kit, then I'd come straight here and read all these posts about how to get around it with great interest!!!

This recent post is dubious enough as it is, considering the lack of any evidence and the OP's obvious reference to the lack of it right from the start.

How hard would it have been for any truly concerned "member" to take a couple of pictures of this apparent revelation?

Call me paranoid, and it could well turn out to be true, but regardless, if you really don't want to make things more difficult, you'll all keep your creative solutions to this to yourselves or strictly in PM's.




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@ixd64 It might even cost less
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We would already be doing this if it were an option.
Are you saying that the manufacturer only sells those diodes to Casio exclusively?
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It's prohibitively expensive. Even in orders of hundreds it's going to be several hundred to a thousand dollars a diode. Only when your order tens of thousands or even millions do you get into the <$100 a diode range.
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Ok that changes things......
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I don't believe that "C&$10" likes to see their name posted on laser forums related to the diodes which they only purchase. There's legal crap starting to fly around on PL.

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