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I might even be possible to persuade me to provide the v3 Heatsink/Module blanks IF there was enough interest (50 = MOQ)....
OH GOD YES

Please do. How much would they cost? Also, do your builds use a circuit board at the bottom of the module, or do you used a spring?


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I can't predict the final cost until i know the interest.

But if i could get 50 orders then the price would be good. Like 23.8€....
The only way for me to sell them tho would be through my company, officially (with an invoice - not that that changes anything for anyone on this side), because i had them made through my company officially. I can't sell them without invoices... (if i have something officially made, i either have to have it, or if i don't have it, i need an invoice showing me selling it...)


My builds use the circuit board at the bottom of the module, please take a look at the first page. There is a photo of a v2 from different side in one of the attachments. You'll see the round circuit board closing the module off.

But i modify that board in a special way, to make it stay in place AND establish electrical connections (the negative one) at the same time... I then install polarity protection on the round circuit board, and the power input wires go from there to the driver.

If i were to sell these beauties, i would of course make a tutorial.


If that round cct. board modification would be an unwanted thing for the potential heatsink/module-blanks buyers, i COULD change the plans just a little bit, so the round cct. board would simply stick in without modification and then the negative contact would be established from the diode itself (it's can pin).... Only the positive would then come from the round cct. board.

But the whole idea of this module is to have it completelly closed off and self contained. The spring approach can cause trouble if it bends the wrong way. Not to mention that i don't even think there is room for an additional spring in this host.


Oh, the original circuitry components have to be removed completelly of course, and not by breaking them off, but by desoldering them....

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Well, i did have to show the v3's, didn't i?

I'll be quiet from now on...
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Oh, one last thing......


I just received my personal 6x back today.

It lived a long and fruitfull life, went through many hardships, but always came out fine. It took a lot of punishment in many forms and almost seemed impossible to kill, even when i tried on purpose!

But now it's dead.

Let's observe a moment of silence for my good old first 6x ever.
The $350 diode is no more.....




[Insert moment of silence here]





But man, was this tough bastard hard to kill! If this exact diode were to be in a normal users hands, it would easily have survived 5 years or more at around 200mW after plastics! That's cos i used it at least 5 times as much as normal users do (if not even more, with all the testing and experiments i do!), and yet it lasted a year, even after i pushed it to 260mW through custom lens!


Keep in mind, this diode never even heard of the duty cycle myth! And yet it just kept going and going.

I'm not sad about it dying, i wanted to kill it ever since i raised the current (and received other 6x's). At least now i know where it's breakng point was... Overall it thought me a lot about 6x's.


Of course diodes will vary and some will die in minutes at a lower power, just to piss you off.... But i am now comfortable setting them to high powers. Because except for the few with birth defects, most 6x diodes should be able to survive this power for a decent amount of time....



Also, like i once mentioned before, i will continue to cover birth-defect diodes with an "Infant Mortality Warranty", unless you ask for a really bizzare power. I can not however provide a full diode warranty for 6x's unless you ask for maximum-reliability, when ordering the laser.....

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You got to let him get it all out...

It will make him even more enthused! After all, I don't think you have even talked about the 8X diodes yet. Have you Igor?

Have you seen Dave's 500mW build?
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FrancoRob has a graph of all of the 8X owners:
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Oh, Franco and Traveller have both been very enthusiastic about keeping me informed of the 8x diodes and the results, while i was away.

Both were also interested into getting one made by me, but in the end it was Franco, that comissioned an official "R&D project" from my company, to get himself an 8x lazor...


I think that was the only thing i said so far about 8x diodes. That and that the 150mW Nichia should be almost one and the same thing (keep in mind 200mW's are reserved for 12x's).

8x diodes or the new Nichia's (if real) should make great 300mW lasers (360mW+ with AR glass lenses). But i will not push them to powers even a 12x isn't made to survive. At least not until they become more cheaply available (or the Nichia's turn out to be real)...

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They have a high forward voltage, and per Dr. Lava, the v4 FlexDrive is good to about 300mA's with the 8X...

I have mine in a Pocket Mini at 292mA's/375mW's (405-G-1). This is fairly conservative compared to Dave's and some others...
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It wasn't actually useless, if we're thinking about the same lens. Some spherical aberration, which was to be expected, but otherwise pretty neat. You can compensate for it by having it focus the light a bit, then throw in a concave lens to collimate and correct for spherical aberration. You get a thinner beam and no aberration.

Or use it in a scope, where the short FL really makes it shine, although Anchor actually has 3mmŲ x 4mmFL coated doublets for $25 which work better in a scope. Which raises the question of what you'd want to charge for the singlets? I can probably use a couple of lenses for some experiments, but that depends on what you'll be charging for them.

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May he now work with the speed of Mercury to bring forth the sacred Batch 3 unto the yearning masses, who showing such patience, are blessed in the eyes of the Lazord.

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They have a high forward voltage, and per Dr. Lava, the v4 FlexDrive is good to about 300mA's with the 8X...

I have mine in a Pocket Mini at 292mA's/375mW's (405-G-1). This is fairly conservative compared to Dave's and some others...
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Ah, yes, i heard of this strange limit with 8x's and FlexDrives, but i didn't understand it until now..

A higher forward voltage you say? That explains it... However...

Well, the forward voltage gets higher with current. So DrLava would agree with me here (or rather already did a long time ago on two different diodes), that if the FlexDrive can't handle it, even tho it can go up to 6V, it is the builder, who is overdriving the diode, since it's forward voltage went so far out of the Datasheet's absolute maximum ratings....


Luckily i don't have to care about that, since my chip/driver can go up to 25V easily, without even breaking a sweat...

So i'll still get to torture away, without having to resort to linear drivers..



EDIT: Oh, and yes, your current / power setting seems very reasonable, in fact it's pretty much EXACTLY what i'm recommending to Franco for his 8x build, so as not to make an expensive diode go down the drain too quickly.

Especially since i know, that Franco actually USES his lasers, and doesn't just have them for HAVING them and the occasional measuring on the meter (for comparing mW sizes) .

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It wasn't actually useless, if we're thinking about the same lens. Some spherical aberration, which was to be expected, but otherwise pretty neat. You can compensate for it by having it focus the light a bit, then throw in a concave lens to collimate and correct for spherical aberration. You get a thinner beam and no aberration.

Or use it in a scope, where the short FL really makes it shine, although Anchor actually has 3mmŲ x 4mmFL coated doublets for $25 which work better in a scope. Which raises the question of what you'd want to charge for the singlets? I can probably use a couple of lenses for some experiments, but that depends on what you'll be charging for them.
suiraM,

You do know, that you are my favorite mad scientist of all, right?

Yes, I AM talking about the same lenses - my very first attempt at a custom lens, the v1, completelly custom machined to "my" (well a friend's and mine) specs.... I gave you one (?) once with your lazor a long time ago...

What i will charge for them?

That statement was more one of desperation than actuall offer. I lost a thousand dollars on that one single first attempt!


It was an expensive lesson that only thaught me one thing until a short time ago. Now it's two lessons, so i guess it's $500 each..

The question of how much i would sell them for is really a little, hmm.. Obsolete?

Whatever i sell them for is better than nothing. Nothing means $1k down the drain!

Ideally i'd sell them at manufacturing cost, but who, other than mad scientists would even want them?


I was thinking (well actually others suggested it) of including a "donation box" on the GB payment page, to compensate a little for the research losses, and maybe offer the beautiful v1 lenses too, at a very low price, for anyone who might want them, for whatever reason they can come up with, or simply just for their "historical value"...


If you want some, however, just contact me directly.. You know my email address, it's been reactivated now (and mostly cleaned up... but if there is an email i missed, just poke it a little to make it come out at the top.)..

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Ah yes, it is indeed good to see Igor enthused again.

May he now work with the speed of Mercury to bring forth the sacred Batch 3 unto the yearning masses, who showing such patience, are blessed in the eyes of the Lazord.

Amen

Oh, wow, what do my eyes behold! Could it be? Am i halucinating? You are posting again?!? Yaay!


CC, i need to talk to you ASAP, could you please email me at my gmail account? My personal account on my business email is still under selective reading (by subject), so i don't know if you wrote there or not. It's a mess, so i'm asking everyone to move conversations back to G-Mail....

I would appreciate it a lot, there is something i need to tell you.
Might be good news.. At least i'm hoping you'll think so...


P.S. Just sent you an email, just reply to it, i hope your address is still the same.

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Haha, yeah, i forgot to mention, i just sent out PP requests to everyone from Batch #3.

Everyone, except for those, where the final details were not fully decided yet.


Now i don't have to worry about that no more, and can focus on finishing the batch.

Like i said, i freed up enough time, to finish it this week, but i am taking the weekend as a buffer, just in case, so the last should go out on Monday, even if something goes wrong...




EDIT: Oh, and i still have not figured out who ordered the CR123 side-button host!
I checked and double checked all your Order Summaries, and every single one is for the "Classic" host with the v3 HS/M..

Unless of course the CR123-laser talk never made it to the order stage, in which case i would still appreciate if that person wrote me, so i don't make an extra laser for no reason, slowing down the whole batch...

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Oh, for some reason, the previously waiting and anxious members of the cursed part of Batch #2 don't seem to be reading this thread anymore...


I only ever got ONE Bonus Batch request email in?!?
Maybe i didn't make it clear, not sure:
- The emails should go to my G-Mail account, and have "Bonus Batch" for the subject, if you want your bonus laser...


If you don't... Less work for me, i guess..
Just kidding... But we should order them FlexDrives ASAP! That's why i want the Bonus Batch requests to come in sooner, rather than later..
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