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Warning about LPF member "pr0jkt" & PayPal

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Good job! Maybe I can finally send you the money for the bits I wanted to order! ;) :beer:

P.S Maybe you should ask the VP about the money they sequestered too..!:na:;)
 
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grainde said:
Good job! Maybe I can finally send you the money for the bits I wanted to order! ;) :beer:

P.S Maybe you should ask the VP about the money they sequestered too..!:na:;)
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Yeah sure PM me ill give you my PayPal :)

I won't bother the VP or other PayPal employees for that... I got 1/2 back it's good enough for me at the moment :)
 
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F*ck . Im now too afraid to sell to newcomers :(
Seems like its very easy to scam sellers using paypal. WTF
 
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Silvershot said:
F*ck . Im now too afraid to sell to newcomers :(
Seems like its very easy to scam sellers using paypal. WTF
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It is easy for them... They can practically screw you over big time in buyin / selling if PayPal chooses to close your account...

Now that I can sell again I am selling to people here At least 3 months & with a positive reputation...
 
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Did you get the paypal from the GB back, or your more recent one?
 
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AnthoT said:
Now that I can sell again I am selling to people here At least 3 months & with a positive reputation...
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Good idea. I think Ill also do this, should I sell anything here. Anyway PP sent :thanks: again and :beer:
 
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It's my more recent one, the GB one is hopeless :p


Grainde it shipped :)
 
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Re: Warning about LPF member "pr0jkt"

But wouldn't the item still go to his address so he will receive it even if his claim was hacked and some one else ordered it.

I know nothing about an "unauthorized transaction" claim :thinking:

And how can he send funds on two different occasions and claim he didn't do it, that sounds a little fishy to me.


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I think the issue is the "unauthorized transaction" claim. I'm not sure how that works, but I assume he basically claims that his account was hacked or something like that.
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Re: Warning about LPF member "pr0jkt"

Flaminpyro said:
But wouldn't the item still go to his address so he will receive it even if his claim was hacked and some one else ordered it.

I know nothing about an "unauthorized transaction" claim :thinking:

And how can he send funds on two different occasions and claim he didn't do it, that sounds a little fishy to me.
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Yeah he's a scammer... The night before the claim he kept saying he needed me to refund him and he will send money in a different account, i refused kindly but right there I feel like an idiot now for not seeing it :banghead: then he said its all worked out blalblabla then I drop it off at the post office, bam 2 hours later tracking shows up and he opens the claim ceases communication PayPal closed my account and hell happened for me...

I lost the dispute even though there was signature confirmation, tracking showed delivered & I offered to refund if he returned it.

Oh well at least my PayPal is back :)
 
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If you are selling anything more than 5mW you are already takng a big chance on getting scammed- by the buyer, PP or both. The only exception I allow other than a USPS MO is the use of a middleman. Scammers find out quick about ways to scam and this way is out there for all of those asshats to use. In order to protect myself I opened another PP and Feebay acct(perfectly within the rules) I use one for buying and the other for selling when I must only. Each is tied to different banks and/or CCs-
If you can work around the CC( like a debit card instead or a savings acct. always withjust the min. balance) you have a better chance of not hasving PP do a chargeback or take funds from you w/o your permission- signing up at PP is just like giving them your CC # & pin or a blank signed check. IMHO.

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hakzaw1 said:
If you are selling anything more than 5mW you are already takng a big chance on getting scammed- by the buyer, PP or both. The only exception I allow other than a USPS MO is the use of a middleman. Scammers find out quick about ways to scam and this way is out there for all of those asshats to use. In order to protect myself I opened another PP and Feebay acct(perfectly within the rules) I use one for buying and the other for selling when I must only. Each is tied to different banks and/or CCs-
If you can work around the CC( like a debit card instead or a savings acct. always withjust the min. balance) you have a better chance of not hasving PP do a chargeback or take funds from you w/o your permission- signing up at PP is just like giving them your CC # & pin or a blank signed check. IMHO.

hak
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I dont sell lasers often, when I do it's not frequent, I've sold 2 here... That's it, one to a good buyer and one to this guy, but marking it as torch, light DIY electronics with PayPal can get away with it...

Yeah I agree with when you sign up you basically tell them to do what they want with your money, when my account was closed I called my bank and filed a lost/ stolen card. That way they can't touch it ;)
 
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hakzaw1 said:
If you are selling anything more than 5mW you are already takng a big chance on getting scammed- by the buyer, PP or both. The only exception I allow other than a USPS MO is the use of a middleman. Scammers find out quick about ways to scam and this way is out there for all of those asshats to use. In order to protect myself I opened another PP and Feebay acct(perfectly within the rules) I use one for buying and the other for selling when I must only. Each is tied to different banks and/or CCs-
If you can work around the CC( like a debit card instead or a savings acct. always withjust the min. balance) you have a better chance of not hasving PP do a chargeback or take funds from you w/o your permission- signing up at PP is just like giving them your CC # & pin or a blank signed check. IMHO.

hak
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Could it be possible to have another PP for selling and transfer the funds from that to the PP for selling so that the buyer can't open a wrongful charge back? or can paypal undo two payments?
 
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ARGLaser said:
Could it be possible to have another PP for selling and transfer the funds from that to the PP for selling so that the buyer can't open a wrongful charge back? or can paypal undo two payments?
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They can and will reverse whatever is needed to bring your account out of the -...

My account was -100 for a bit then they quickly reversed all bank transfers in progress to bring it back to +

They dont ask or notify you of this, you just gotta expect the worst & hope for the best :tinfoil:
 
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I was thinking more like: Sell item and have it transferred to account A that has a CC with 0$ balance (Also assume the credit card cannot go negative) (No bank account)

Take the money from account A and transfer it to account B, that has the bank account.

Would paypal be able to reverse the payment from account A to account B to send the money back to the scamming buyer?
 
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ARGLaser said:
I was thinking more like: Sell item and have it transferred to account A that has a CC with 0$ balance (Also assume the credit card cannot go negative) (No bank account)

Take the money from account A and transfer it to account B, that has the bank account.

Would paypal be able to reverse the payment from account A to account B to send the money back to the scamming buyer?
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Yes they can do that, only way out is to have 2 bank accounts, transfer money out to one bank and then transfer it to the next bank, they can't touch it like that
 
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