Originally Posted by FutureOne

SOLD!!! - Arctics no longer available!
Well, I decided to start building my own lasers. I already have the 2 diodes and the drivers I'm going to use.
So I'm parting with my 2 Arctic G2's.
The first one I bought brand new from Wicked Lasers (Bought in Feb of last year, received in July last year)
The second one I bought from a member on here.
One has the extra lenses (the X pattern lens broke, so I threw it out, all other lenses are there, unused). The other does not have extra lenses, only the regular and low power lens.

I have never used the low power lenses on any of these, only the high powered lens, and the only other lens I used was the flashlight lens.
My original WL unit has about 10mins use TOPS! I'm too chicken to use these without everything in lock down in my house.
The one I bought from a member here has even less use from me!! He told me he "maybe" put 20 mins total use on it, and I've added maybe 2-3 mins on top of that.

Will include the WL Goggles with each. I only have 1 stock battery charger left, the other fried 10 mins into charging, like most other people's did.

For the original WL G2 Arctic with the extra lenses, the battery and charger and goggles I will consider $185 OBO + shipping

For the second G2 Arctic, with battery (no charger ), and goggles, I will let that one go for $170 OBO + shipping.

I am in Canada BTW, but these are US prices. Preferably a Canadian will buy these (it will be a slick transaction for both of us).

I will ship to the US, and will do my best to make sure you get it, but cannot be held responsible if something happens and your package is seized or something. We can discuss our options if you truly are interested in it.
Feel free to PM me with any questions.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by FutureOne

Hey there.

So I've changed my mind on a couple of things. First, I've decided to keep 1 of my Arctics, and I think I will keep the original one I got from WL.

But I have a proposition for you: I still would like to sell the Arctic I bought from a member here. Cosmetically and functionally it's exactly the same as my other Arctic.

I would be willing to do a straight up trade for one of your Laserbee 2W LPM's

Originally Posted by FutureOne

Hey man, sorry I haven't logged onto the board for a few days. Your buddy took very long to get back to me. The last e-mail he sent me on Friday said he didn't have time to have me drop by to give it to him, and he would rather I ship it to him instead.

That same day someone bought it and picked up the laser locally. So it's gone now. Sorry dude.

Originally Posted by GoolGaul

I feel for ya... I am in the middle of one of those right now. Not here, thru eBay.

a real nightmare. i am ready to cancel the sale.

consider yourself lucky, the laser he was offering probably didn't work, and if it did, then he'd be calling you every other day with an question about the meter...

Originally Posted by lasersbee

Any questions about our LaserBee products is no problem... They
would get answered the same way we take take of our other LPM
customers.

As to eBay... I'm nos sure of your circunstances... but if you have not
paid for your Item and are having problems with the seller... you can
report him as you believing he is fraudulent and ask to cancel the
transaction...


Jerry

Originally Posted by FutureOne

In my defense:

You offered me like $20 less than my asking price. I agreed. You asked me to ship everything to a 3rd party as a "safety measure" (for you). You gave me the info for a person that is here in the same city I am. I sent this person an e-mail. 2 days passed without a reply. Finally the guy replied saying "sorry your E-mail ended up in my junk folder".

So finally I spoke with the 3rd party, and I asked him if I could meet up with him somewhere (I even offered to drive there myself, no effort would be required on his part). Another day passed, and then he replied "sorry I don't have any time, I have my kids, and other stuff that doesn't give me time to meet up with you, just ship the product please".


All this time I had already been offered my full asking price by 3 different people, so I had enough, and said yes to the 3rd guy.

If you thought you got the run around, next time, get a 3rd party that's not a flake.

Originally Posted by GoolGaul

I am the seller, and I am cancelling the transaction.

and I did report him as suspect of fraudulent activities, with address switchiing and all. I think he bought it (a QSC 2 ch x 200W amp, new in box) for $300, put it on ebay for more, and someone bought it, thus the 5 day delay in paying and the request to ship to a different address then his confirmed paypal address.

Originally Posted by lasersbee

... and I'll be watching you to see you don't screw around with any other LPF member...

Originally Posted by lasersbee

There is no stalking involved...
If I happen to stumble on him sell anything I'll
just link back to here and the buyer can make
up his own mind...
And it seems he doesn't believe in Karma...

Just trying to protect the LPF community from
sellers like that....


Jerry

Originally Posted by Trevor

Jerry, I completely understand why you're upset over this transaction.

But I'd cool it a bit on the ad hominem if I were you. You may not take a reputation hit for it, but people do remember things like that.

Just my opinion; it's worth what you paid for it...

-Trevor

Originally Posted by Guyfromhe

I was joking and I know.

EDIT: na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na Jerry!

Originally Posted by FutureOne

All you had to do was pay for the product and let me ship it like every other normal transaction on the internet.

In fact, if you had done this, you'd have the original WL unit and not the other one because it would be on its way out before I had a chance to change my mind.

Originally Posted by FutureOne

So the guy is in my city. I'm willing to drive over and hand over the stuff for inspection, but he still rather have me ship it?

Originally Posted by FutureOne

What do I do if I send it and I never heard from you guys again? It's my word against Laserbee™ because I'm the "new" guy.

Originally Posted by FutureOne

So yeah, I will take the bad rep rather than risk losing my stuff thanks.

Originally Posted by FutureOne

All you had to do was pay for the product and let me ship it like every other normal transaction on the internet.

In fact, if you had done this, you'd have the original WL unit and not the other one because it would be on its way out before I had a chance to change my mind.

You are a corporation and I am an individual. I don't ask you to ship a LPM to a 3rd party to get checked out before I pay you. I just give you the money and you send me the product. That's how it works for 99.999% of transactions on the internet.

Yet you expect me, the individual, to risk sending my laser out without payment to get "checked" before I can get payed. Even though it was an inconvenience, I was willing to meet you halfway, since the guy was in my city, why not just drive over? Yet he doesn't have time for me to drop by and have the laser inspected, but he does have time for me to ship it and then have it inspected. What's the difference? If he's afraid to meet face to face he's got bigger issues. I'm helping my dad search for a used car, and we're meeting face to face with people like 3 times a week.

So the guy is in my city. I'm willing to drive over and hand over the stuff for inspection, but he still rather have me ship it?

What do I do if I send it and I never heard from you guys again? It's my word against Laserbee™ because I'm the "new" guy.

So yeah, I will take the bad rep rather than risk losing my stuff thanks.

Originally Posted by FutureOne

Actually no agreement was ever made.

Originally Posted by InfinitusEquitas

Using a middle man is perfectly acceptable and encouraged practice when dealing with new members.

Changing your mind after a deal is reached, is acceptable so long as money has not changed hands, but it is impolite to say the least.



The guy is doing you favor, by agreeing to act as middle man, and you're complaining because he's too busy to have you drive up to his house? Original deal was to have packaged shipped, why did you all of a sudden decide on driving instead? Driving to the post office was always an option since you like to drive so much.


Right here's a guy with hundreds of transactions and a good rep to his name... yeah, he's gonna risk his reputation to scam you out of a $300 laser. I think not.



Since you asked for it.