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Old 10-16-2012, 02:09 PM #1
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Exclamation Scammer alert ! Warning about the person Jtag

Hey all

I want to warn the people about this person. He purchases my 2W C6 laser, here is the link : Sold 2212mW C6 blue laser
We agreed about the price and shipment. He paid the money on my PayPal account. After receiving the money I shipped the laser on October 4th 2012.

Now almost two weeks later I got a mail from PayPal. The buyer has put a file against me for "An unauthorized account activity claim".
I think he has received the laser and wants also the money back. So the want to scam me with this dispute.
I mailed him about this matter but no reaction from him so far.

PayPal want to see a proof of shipment. All my shipment are registered and with tracking so I am pretty sure I will win the dispute.
I just want to warn people about his malicious action. Be careful with this person.

The information about the person :

LFP nick: Jtag, Laser Pointer Forums - Laser Pointers and Laser Pointer info - View Profile: Jtag

PayPal name: Deem H4x yo
Now the name has change to: Steves Tax's
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Hang on someone else posted about him a couple of weeks ago...

Ill just see if I can find it...


Edit: Ok found it Yobresal posted this: Sellers BEWARE of Yin Tang. Name sure sounds similar...

Edit 2: PrOjkt did the exactly the same to AnthoT too, could it be the same guy?
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You can use the tracking number yourself to see if
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If it has been delivered don't forget to supply PMs,
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Also be careful about disclosing that it was a high
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The laser has been delivered. The BPost tracking site can confirm that.

Now the issue with the high powered laser. I have stated that the people who buy my lasers must know the laser safety rules. If he bought it than he is willingly to take the risk involved shipping the high powered lasers.
I don't know how Paypal will decide in this matter.
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Maybe you could ask AnthoT how he dealt with it and exactly what he said to PP, wrt a high powered laser. He had the same problem and he managed to win the case against PrOjkt.
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Good luck Dude! I hope paypal will not give you too much grief.
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Thanks for the heads up Blord. Personally I ship everything priority insured with delivery signature confirmation because this method protects both the buyer and seller from any postal mishaps as well as any attempted fraudulent claims like this. I'm glad to hear you have your bases covered, good luck with your case man.

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And he is currently viewing the thread.

Donīt know why people doing that. Just cause they got bad experiences with someone else and want revanche?

Jtag, enjoy your laser and be happy that you got such a beast from Blord!
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There must be some kind of an algorithm in PayPal that flags people who keep making claims...
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Sorry to hear this Blord - hope you get this dispute sorted.
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Thank you guys for the warm support. I really appreciate that.
I have asked Coldshadow to check the ip's. If the person is the same then I reveal this scammer to PayPal.
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Wish I lived near this guy to pay him a visit. This is fucking retarded.

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Recently I have been buying lasers and accessories from this fourm(all sucessfully) and I have been checking into this feedback fourm and I cannot believe how people have the balls to screw people over like this....I bought my laser from Blord and it's so awesome it would of never crossed my mind to screw him over.....how does somebody bring their self to do this?
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I really hate this! Stupid scamming ruins the fun of selling items at a good price! Maybe it is an idea for new members to let them pay as a "gift". If they don't trust that show them your reputation and positive sales feedback!

If they still dont want to do it then it is their own problem. It is clear to the entire forum that everyone with high rep is VERY unlikely to scam you. And if that still happens you just post a thread in this section in which the seller is almost forced to solve it too maintain reputation..

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Interesting idea, but some highly reped vets have run into trouble recently. I wont mention any names, but there have been a few threads about them...Hence rep cannot be considered an absolute guarantee and so sending as a gift may not be wise.
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That sucks Blord. This type of thing has been happening more and more lately. I may have several (most?) of my lasers up for sale soon and I'm only going to accept postal money orders to avoid the kind of bs claim.

Hopefuly you have enough documentation that PayPal will side with you. Keep us updated!
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