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Hey all,
I'd like to get some opinions from anyone else running windows 10 on their computer.
I currently have 2 computers running 10 (a laptop, and a tower), and both were originally Windows 7 that were converted to 10 via the free downloaded upgrade.
I haven't noticed any issues yet with the tower, but that mite be because I only use it for streaming. But the laptop seems like it's been bogging down quite badly. It started a couple of months after the 10 upgrade.
I tried wiping it, reinstalling 7, then re-downloading the 10 upgrade, but it's the same story.
I've talked to a co-worker that's a computer freak (like could build a small fort with all of the computers that he has), and he told me that he's noticed the same issues with the downloadable version of the 10 upgrade. The computer seems fine for a little while, then will start to bog down really badly. He mentioned that he just went and bought the disc version of the 10 upgrade, and no longer has had this issue.
So basically I'm trying to find out if this is an actual issue or not, cuz I'm about to ditch 10 and go back to 7 at this point.


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I have windows 10 on my laptop that was done by the update method and haven't had any slow down issues from what i've seen and I use my laptop every day for 5
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When it bogs down , look at what services are running the most CPU cycles and what the HDD activity is like , it make give a clue to what it is . Are you running a HDD or SSD as that can make a difference .


I have win 10 on a pico pc to that was done by disk and that seems to be fine aswell but both use an SSD
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Windows 10 runs flawless on every machine I've put it on, which is over 100...even low power netbooks.

There will be a program in the background slowing it down.

And dont forget, Win 10 has a "refresh" feature (Hold shift and then Start>Power>restart) while still holding shift, then Choose "Advanced Option" after restarting and choose Refresh.
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I've done some searching online, and there are a lot of similar issues out there, mostly with slow startup. Mine seems to be slower in every aspect.

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I'm running a HDD, and since it seems like every process is slower then it used to be, it's hard to tell if anything is taking up more ram then normal. But all the processes look normal.

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I didn't know about the "refresh" function, so I'll definitely try that out. And truthfully, I'm still trying to figure out this OS. It's so much different than what I'm use to. I completely missed 8-8.1. But from what I've heard, that maybe a good thing.
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Had no performance issues on my own machine, if anything it's faster than W7. Been deploying W10 in a corp. environment and no issues so far either!
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Are you doing the downloaded upgrade, or the disc upgrade?
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Personally, I've noticed W10 runs pretty well and decently fast on my machines. Not as fast as 8.1 did in some cases, but just about comparable.

There are some issues that pop up when using the upgrade version though.
1. The first is that your Windows 7 image remains backed up for at least 30 days and really can slow down your hard drive read times. Run disk cleanup.
2. Even though the update software says your PC is compatible, it might not be (especially true with cheaper laptops). You'd have to go through the drivers.
3. If your Internet is slow, and your PC is on default settings, W10 will be slow.
4. Background tasks from the factory image (if reinstalled this way) might still be running in W10.

Anyway, those are the issues I've run into so far, but I'd say incompatible system drivers have been the culprit usually.
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I've had some issues with W10 initially, but none as of late. Have upgraded 3 pcs, and 3 notebooks to it so far.

Do a clean install, download the media creation tool, create a disk or use a flashdrive, and just do a clean install.

The ONLY time I had issues was when I did an upgrade only. Even since, I do upgrade to get the W10 license, and clean install immediately after. May want to upgrade to SSD first because it cuts down on the time significantly.
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Are you doing the downloaded upgrade, or the disc upgrade?
Been doing both ways - upgrades from a clean install of W7 work the best of course. Had issues upgrading from Windows 8 with classic shell installed if I try to remove the classic shell application at any point though, have had the start menu/task bar break on a couple of upgrades when that was involved. Otherwise no issues since W10 was first released, and those were only minor bugs that were fixed with updates fairly quickly.
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Windows 10 runs flawless on every machine I've put it on, which is over 100...even low power netbooks.

There will be a program in the background slowing it down.
I only have 2 computes upgraded to win 10, both work well. One is a ca 6 year old HP notebook that came form windows 7, the other an almost 2 year old lenovo laptop that came from win 8.1

Neither machine has been noticably slower, and the old HP has been on win 10 for half a year or so, the lenovo for a month or so.

I have no reason to think that 10 is inherently slower than 8 or 7, but i can imagine that for some specific software or hardware it can pose a problem.
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Windows 10 is slow if you keep all the stock rubbish running, but if you slim it down it's definitely faster than previous OS's. If you care about battery life on mobile devices Cortana should be the first thing to go, followed by all live tiles. Then the horrifically un-optimized search indexer (only a good idea if you have good file organization).
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I'd like to get some opinions from anyone else running windows 10 on their computer.
I currently have 2 computers running 10 (a laptop, and a tower), and both were originally Windows 7 that were converted to 10 via the free downloaded upgrade.
I haven't noticed any issues yet with the tower, but that mite be because I only use it for streaming. But the laptop seems like it's been bogging down quite badly. It started a couple of months after the 10 upgrade.
I tried wiping it, reinstalling 7, then re-downloading the 10 upgrade, but it's the same story.
I've talked to a co-worker that's a computer freak (like could build a small fort with all of the computers that he has), and he told me that he's noticed the same issues with the downloadable version of the 10 upgrade. The computer seems fine for a little while, then will start to bog down really badly. He mentioned that he just went and bought the disc version of the 10 upgrade, and no longer has had this issue.
So basically I'm trying to find out if this is an actual issue or not, cuz I'm about to ditch 10 and go back to 7 at this point.
It's about time that I've encountered someone with the same issue. On my Microsoft Surface Pro (1st gen) it works "fine" but on my main PC - It's been breaking down like crazy.

My specs aren't anything to drool about and my CPU especially is getting outdated, but it's still well within the "fast" category. I've got 12 gigs of DDR4, a Radeon R7 and an FX-6300 with a 256 SSD alongside another 256gb SSD for storage (bought two in a bundle for a super good deal). The only thing stopping me at this point from switching back to 7 is just the fact that I have so many programs and data to be able to comfortably switch back, if I eventually chose to do so it would take a while as well.

For me the errors have been randomly shutting down, instantly, for no cause. That's pretty rare but it does happen... But the bigger issue is the freezing. I can't stand it when this happens and it really makes me impatient, I'll be doing the average job on the average program and just like that, everything stops working - Windows explorer doesn't respond, chrome is dead, skype won't respond, but then given a couple mins later... everything seems fine. A few times my Wifi will cut out as well, but that might be my adapter's fault.
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My specs aren't anything to drool about and my CPU especially is getting outdated, but it's still well within the "fast" category. I've got 12 gigs of DDR4, a Radeon R7 and an FX-6300 with a 256 SSD alongside another 256gb SSD for storage (bought two in a bundle for a super good deal). The only thing stopping me at this point from switching back to 7 is just the fact that I have so many programs and data to be able to comfortably switch back, if I eventually chose to do so it would take a while as well.

For me the errors have been randomly shutting down, instantly, for no cause. That's pretty rare but it does happen... But the bigger issue is the freezing. I can't stand it when this happens and it really makes me impatient, I'll be doing the average job on the average program and just like that, everything stops working - Windows explorer doesn't respond, chrome is dead, skype won't respond, but then given a couple mins later... everything seems fine. A few times my Wifi will cut out as well, but that might be my adapter's fault.
Is this a custom build or a prebuilt PC? Sounds like you've got lots of incompatible firmware or drivers. One of my laptops had similar issues until I manually set the original drivers and did a BIOS update. Works okay now.
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Some good suggestions popping up here!

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Some of your freezing issues are sounding very similar to what I'm experiencing. My laptop wasn't anything fancy when I got it either. Just a basic Toshiba unit. But the tower that seems to be running ok is a home built unit. Go figure. I'd expect to be having more driver compatibility issues with that thing if that were the issue.
I'll probably try some of the for mentioned tricks here to see if anything improves. But really everything on the laptop is externally backed up, so If I do decide to switch back to 7 it's no big deal.
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Windows 10 is slow if you keep all the stock rubbish running, but if you slim it down it's definitely faster than previous OS's. If you care about battery life on mobile devices Cortana should be the first thing to go, followed by all live tiles. Then the horrifically un-optimized search indexer (only a good idea if you have good file organization).
That may make a difference. I disabled all the live tiles etc because they annoyed me, not because i noticed performance problems, but i suppose it all helps.

I also ran the spybot anti-beacon tool to disable all the phone home stuff. I'm not sure how that impacts performance at all, but it might help as well.
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That may make a difference. I disabled all the live tiles etc because they annoyed me, not because i noticed performance problems, but i suppose it all helps.

I also ran the spybot anti-beacon tool to disable all the phone home stuff. I'm not sure how that impacts performance at all, but it might help as well.
Good point. Never occurred to me that many leave that stuff running in the background. Personally I disable everything I can, even on my desktop, that is not relevant to what I need to be doing.

Here's another option; https://github.com/10se1ucgo/Disable...cking/releases
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