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Default Re: Windows 10 , Have you?

Usually it doesn't but W10 default settings put the PC to sleep pretty fast.


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Yeah I usually do this right away when I do a clean install. My uncle however upgraded his Windows 8.1 to 10 himself and had no clue about this being possible. Then again, who would've thought that sleep mode would've totally messed up his OS?

This is not his fault, it is possible in windows 10, that even when laptop or PC is in sleep mode it will reboot itself, just to install updates and will stay on after that.

Read here, make sure you all disable this.

Prevent windows 10 rebooting in sleep mode to install update

So basically if update install was unsuccessful or corrupted it could be harmful for a pc.
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Have you guys seem the new command line? It's horizontally realizable! About time.
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So it is.

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Have 2 netbooks with windows 7 (that I like). Bottom line is will this run close enough for very simple things that my wife wont mind if I put it on hers? I haven't done mine yet just because I have way too many movies on it and I would have to delete them first which I'm not ready to do yet.
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I could be so bold to say they might actually run better, and like I said earlier, if you don't like it, it can do a COMPLETE roll back to Win 7 (within 30 days) .
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I'm reading a lot, I mean A LOT of conflicting reports with regards to privacy issues with windows 10. Some I know are true, the initial settings, if unaltered basically broadcast EVERYTHING to the MS mothership, but not sure how much stock to place in all of them.

That said, few hiccups aside, it seems like W10 is an excellent product with just incredibly bad marketing.

I still do need to do a clean install on my home PC... for some reason it refuses to work with my keyboard (that I'm typing on now!) and a process keeps popping up that causes the curses flashes. Those two issues aside, it's been pretty solid.

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Looks like I'll do hers and see what happens. Just hoping I'm not going to have to explain a lot of things as I have nothing beyond Win7 in anything.
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Overall, I'd say Win 10 isn't too different from Win 7. At least not nearly as much as the difference between 7 and 8. The start menu is quite advanced compared to Win 7, but definitely not in a bad way. I'd say go for it, I bet she'll like it.
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Default Re: Windows 10 , Have you?

Just turn off cortana, right click on taskbar and go into properties to get rid of search box, and go through the privacy related settings.

I think if anything W10 would be easier for a non technical user. Moving from W7 to W8 before classic shell, now that was a pain in the @$$ I would not wish on anyone.
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Win 10 is very user friendly, once you get through initial setup. Even my dad is liking it, especially the advance start menu, calendar, mail, weather all in one area.

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Yeah I like the advanced start menu , it groups your programs alphabetically.
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Has anyone tried that rollback?

I wonder why this is limited to 30 days though, it seems it just makes a disk image of your existing install which can be used as a restore point. I see no reason a rollback should be impossible even after a year, as long as you don't remove the disk image to regain storage space.

And on that note: the image maybe something like 30 GB. If you have a terabyte+ harddrive, this is not very much to keep around. I can understand why SSD users will want that space back, but on traditional harddrives its a bit 'meh'.
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I wonder why this is limited to 30 days though, it seems it just makes a disk image of your existing install which can be used as a restore point. I see no reason a rollback should be impossible even after a year, as long as you don't remove the disk image to regain storage space.

And on that note: the image maybe something like 30 GB. If you have a terabyte+ harddrive, this is not very much to keep around. I can understand why SSD users will want that space back, but on traditional harddrives its a bit 'meh'.
I think in part it's limited to 30 days to lock people in, who don't bother with alternate backup methods. There is really no other rationale to it.

For myself, I just created a clone drive instead, then upgraded, and then cloned that to SSD. On my old PC that I'm currently using at work. (Bit convoluted approach I know )

Anyone do a fresh install yet? (That's my pet project for the weekend.)
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I'm sure you'll know after before the 30 days is up whether it works for you or not. If it was that important to me, I'd partition off the HD and do a separate install.
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I think the 30 days are BS really. And there is hardware i might not use for a month or more on some occasions - things like my scanner, a programmer for a specific processor type etc. If they turned out not to work in win 10 i'd want to be able to revert no matter how long ago i upgraded, unless i manually chose to remove the backup image. Also there is software that i don't run at least once a month but could break under win 10, and may not have updated versions for it.

Obviously there are other ways to make an image that can be restored at any time. I just think it's a shame i would have to do that because MS arbitrarily chose 30 days to be long enough - imo there is no reason for this restriction unless you need the disk space back.

Lock-in might be reason, but one that could give them trouble. It would be quite sour to discover that microsoft essentially bricked your scanner/printer/etc after 5 weeks and there is no way to recover from the update.
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