If U want to use GEEKS HD DVD drive

laserrod · May 31, 2008

Bottom line:
U need to buy Cyber Ultra DVD or WINDVD Blue Ray software for about $90 (search for coupon codes or best deal) then U got have a PCI-E :Geforce 8400 & up ... or ATI HD 2400 & up, cus it has decryption crap.
Corell's WinDVD will work with less powerfull vid cards. It does the encryption if ness....

But with a good PC monitor U get as good a pic. as a expensive HDTV.

Building your own HTPC is a big hassle!

Windows MCE OS was a waste of $ for me. :'(

U got to watch "The Prestige" movie in HD!

Just my 2 cents, I'm no expert on HTPC

;D ;D ;D ;D

nikokapo · May 31, 2008

WHAT?

you're trying to show hd dvd quality videos with just a dvd decoder and a nice (not great) video card?

laserrod · May 31, 2008

nikokapo said:
WHAT?

you're trying to show hd dvd quality videos with just a dvd decoder and a nice (not great) video card?

A internal PC HD DVD player $18 from Geeks.com and latest vid card W or W/O decoder chips.

I just bought MSI 8500 512MB from Newegg.com $30, should do nicely. Hate to give up my silent heat sink ASUS EN6600 card.

nikokapo · May 31, 2008

no way...8500 for only THIRTY dollars?
or just a mem chip?

that'd sum up a total of 48dls for an emulated hd dvd player?

laserrod · May 31, 2008

nikokapo said:
no way...8500 for only THIRTY dollars?
or just a mem chip?

that'd sum up a total of 48dls for an emulated hd dvd player?

NO Chuck,
Thats a real stae of the art vid card clearance deal!

It sounds to me like U like to buy new hardware every 2 years, I don't.

When I bought the ASUS card it (2 Y ago)was the best, and now it's trash :'(

laserrod · May 31, 2008

The hardware is always way ahead of the software ;D

Did U see the egg hit MS Steve Ba :exclamation [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]uman at that meeting on the news?

Buy the way, the HDDVD on my 6600 looks less brilyant than DVD .

HD won't play through MCE

MCE= Media Center Edition
HTPC=Home TheatrePC

nikokapo · May 31, 2008

hardware is never ahead of software!

example 1: CRYSIS
example 2: calculation of digits of Pi.

and so on..

and it's not that i like to buy hardware every 2 years, it's that i dont have the money to update my pc every month.

i think i just got what you were trying to say

you're just decoding HD videos with the video card! you have downloaded the movies, you're not playing them from an hd dvd player

VillageIdiot · Jun 1, 2008

I can run Crysis with everything set to very high and I can get a good 50fps or so.. and pi has been calculated to over a trillion digits which is really all we're ever going to need.

laserrod · Jun 1, 2008

nikokapo said:
hardware is never ahead of software!

example 1: CRYSIS
example 2: calculation of digits of Pi.

and so on..

and it's not that i like to buy hardware every 2 years, it's that i dont have the money to update my pc every month.

Niko,
I don't think my AMD duece core is being fully utilized by the MS OS presenty. Software is behind! I write code in CPU ML I know!

The only reason I needed a new vid card is because it's got the MPCP chip that takes the decryp load off my 2*CPU on the MOBO.
NO, I didn't download the HD, I'm playing a HD DVD on one of my bargain HDDVD drives from Geeks.com

Also I think "they" disabled my 6600 vid cards DVI so I can't copy HD video off its DVI digital output!(only works w/vga adapter now) since I payed $90 for & installed winDVD BR/HD decoding software!

Don't assume. = (makes arse out of U and me) ass U ME ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

i think i just got what you were trying to say

you're just decoding HD videos with the video card! you have downloaded the movies, you're not playing them from an hd dvd player

laserrod · Jun 1, 2008

Forgot to mention if play HD DVD out through DVI-i connector in digital mode then your display needs to be HPCP ready and luck is in my favor today because it is!!!!!!

Ha HA HA I win today [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif] [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]

laserrod · Jun 1, 2008

Chuck am not bashing U

Also,
why does my system hardware need 200 watts to read a U-Mail or at doing nothing?

Software should turn off the Hardware turbo crap!

I'm paying for A/C now and my PC makes more heat & raising my ELEc bill!

nikokapo · Jun 1, 2008

VillageIdiot said:
I can run Crysis with everything set to very high and I can get a good 50fps or so.. and pi has been calculated to over a trillion digits which is really all we're ever going to need.

what you need is not 100% what the software is capable of.

if you knew how to code...for example.. in C, you'd know that you could create a program which no hardware could complete/run on a limited amount of time.

50fps for a FPS game is not enough, i need >60fps.

in addition, videocards have to do what is called Sampling, in short, they have to "cut" frames because they cant sample EVERY single frame (i'm explaining it very shortly and inaccurately, so dont complain

) in the amount of time you expect it to show what you want.

that means that you could get better graphics from crysis.

or, that you wouldnt have to use antialiasing or anisotropic filtering if videocards didnt have to sample data.

antialiasing isnt just a "filter" that is applied to make things look smoother, what it actually does is "sample more data" (the sharp edges and weird stuff you see is because the videocard cut information).

ever wondered why videogames look better on higher resolutions

Switch · Jun 4, 2008

I never understood why you need so many FPS when the human eye only uses 24.Can someone please explain? :-/

Hardware is ahead of software in the sense that you can create better software for the same hardware, to run it better....like drivers and stuff.

nikokapo · Jun 4, 2008

it's not the same.

hardware have limitations (ideal vs. real, as usual). if you see 24FPS on an FPS game, you WILL see the difference. over 60 is just useless, but some people feel the game smoother if you have >90 or >120 fps (and sometimes it does)

pullbangdead · Jun 7, 2008

Hardware is ahead of software because we can't even write code that will fully utilize all the capabilities of the hardware. Take 64 bit and multicore processors. They're not being scheduled and run efficiently at anywhere near their true capabilities. Sure, I can go tell a computer to write a googolplex of random digits, and it'll take umpteen million years to complete, but that doesn't mean software is ahead of hardware.

mikewitt · Jun 8, 2008

Isn't the HD-DVD drive on geeks.com just for us to get violet lasers?

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