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Old 09-12-2011, 08:05 PM   #33
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Default Re: Electric Glove.

What I mean is, imagine the + and - of the FBT as the + and - of a battery (a very high voltage battery of course) if you touch the + of said battery and grab onto say a metal rod shoved into the ground do you receive a shock (excluding any static electricity), the same goes for the - do you receive a shock, instead of a ground wire maybe something more like a faradays cage/glove so that in the event that a stray arc goes for your hand or arm it hits the cage/glove and is redirect to the output.

Either way I still don't think HV in a glove is a very good idea....

Final thought on safety (sarcasm of course) you say being safe like the tesla guys, most of them (the smart ones) stand at least 3ft+ back depending on the size and power of the coil, and for the ones that want the arcs to come to them and not kill them, they use a faradays cage or suit, so that their entire body is sheilded.
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The potential is only between the two terminals. Between a terminal and anything else, the voltage potential will be zero.
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@Kmor: Hmm... I see what you're saying. And I was just using the Telsa guys as an example :P Now, a "Faraday glove"... that's an interesting concept. What if I had a HV glove with a "Faraday glove"?

The initial idea for a ground wire was sort of similar - the Faraday glove is simply a lot more likely to protect me. So with a Faraday glove, I would essentially wear a chainmail glove. Which would look bada$$ ANYWAY.

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b) gave me a great idea to make it look cooler.
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Default Re: Electric Glove.

Everybody I'm sorry, but I think I may end up getting wolf shocked, he'll most likely live to tell about it, but in the event he uses one that causes the FBT to produce higher currents...I am sorry.

Oh yea and I realize you were using "us" as an example...





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I will probably get at least one jolt here, but I don't plan on dying any time soon. Point of the matter being, I am going to take this extraordinarily, take all the safety precautions I can, and build in multiple safety nets in case things go wrong.
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I love this picture... makes it look like you have some kind of electric tree in your house. +1

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The potential is only between the two terminals. Between a terminal and anything else, the voltage potential will be zero.
Well, there the more important thing, is to always remember to never become one of the terminals yourself .....
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Default Re: Electric Glove.

Just to add to this, if you use a simple driver, such as a single 2n3055/ feedback circuit the output of a small flyback (a dc one) would be relativity harmless. You will be getting no more than 2-3ma as long as the flyback doesn't have an inbuilt tripler and you sue a low power source (like a small laptop supply). It will however burn you if you get struck by and arc, plasma is hot even at low currents.

Looking at your use though, dc is pretty useless, ac would work kinda, but it would shock you easily as it will use you as the ground pin!

All up you still want to be careful with these supplies, getting shocked is not pleasant especially if your not expecting it. Having any form of high voltages actually bound to your had seems like a bad idea at any power level. I haven't been continuously shocked from a flyback and even the short period I did it still put me off a little bit. My advice stick it on a table not on your body.
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Yeah - I am going to use that simple driver with the 2n3055. And I am actually going to try to drop the current to the uA if I can using resistors.
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Make sure to use a big heat sink with the 2n3005. It will get VERY hot. My heat sinc is a 10*15*5 cm flat one surface finned on the other and still only has a small suty cycle. If yours is in a back pack it will have no air to cool it. You will need a monster heat sink. Is your flyback dc or ac?
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Default Re: Electric Glove.

It's not going to be your normal backpack - I am going to essentially make one. Probably will have air access, and if necessary, circulating water coolant.

I think my flyback is DC, I haven't gotten it yet though.
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is it a tall one like this? http://webspace.webring.com/people/g...ge/flyxfmr.gif

or one like this
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the first is dc the second ac. the first may also contain a tripler witch will will be bad as a shock from it will be painful and dangerous. when you run it if it ha a nice smooth purple arc it is god if not (loud this sparks) it is bad and contains a tripler.
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It's one like the second one. So that's good news, yes?
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It's good in that it will arc to anything without it having to be connected to the ground pin of the flyback. That is also it's flaw, it will go through over 2mm of rubber with ease strait into your hand or back or anything else it can to get to ground. I recommend using at least 50kv dc wire. That may not even prevent alot of corona discharge. Try the 50kv wire in a clear plastic tube (loose) that's your best bet. To test all points along the wire touch the ground wire to all parts of tenoutput wire am check for arcs or corona. Please be very careful. Your not messing with matches here your messing with a furnace. It's easy to hurt yourself. High frequency ac arcs can permenantly damage nerves. Put simply I think this is a bad idea. Just stick it on a bench and play with it there, make a plasma globe or a small Jacobs ladder, safer and easier.
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Hmm. Carulli, you make a strong argument. I will consider this and do a lot of testing to make sure it's safe before I do anything stupid, I promise. I still have that dream of an electric glove, but if it's too dangerous, I won't be rash.
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Hmm. Carulli, you make a strong argument. I will consider this and do a lot of testing to make sure it's safe before I do anything stupid, I promise. I still have that dream of an electric glove, but if it's too dangerous, I won't be rash.
I'll second this. It is an interesting plan.... I like the idea, however the original plan using 100Kv is simply unrealistic. In open air the rule of thumb is 1.1Kvdc/mm in room temperature air. 100Kv would jump ~11cm.
In order to obtain this kind of potential (compactly) you would essentially have to run
a) either a bipolar marx impulse generator/walter crofton generator or
b) a dual ignition coil set up under oil.

None of these setups would work in a glove. far too big.

If you were somehow able to make a tesla coil glove.. "wishful thinking"
High Freq High voltage also has the tendency to cause "skin effect"... so, your entire glove and body would conduct a decent charge.


Here is a little Tesla Coil video to show a BIG coil in action.
Note, this is taken from Chriss Angles's Mind F^ck... woops.. where Chriss successfully jolts himself with KVA effects giant 25KW show coil. 3MV at full power. The suit he is wearing isn't completely covered or done up properly and an arc strikes him in the exposed spot causing a lasting RF burn.
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