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Old 10-24-2016, 08:28 PM #1
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Default Building a new PC

I am Planning to build a new PC. My current build is almsot 6 years old, and is starting to show some age. Plus the new GTX 1070 and 1080 graphics cards look sooo nice and while I could get one in my current build, my older CPU would bottleneck performance I am afraid.

What my current build is:

AMD Phenom II quad core 3.2ghz
Gigabyte mobo
PCIe 2.0 Radeon HD 7950 3GB GDDR5
8Gb DDR3 RAM
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corsair 750watt bottom case mounted psu
Lian li case

What I am looking to get new:

Looking to just get new mobo, cpu, ram, video card and probably psu

Looking at ddr4 capable mobo and intel for cpu this time, either a i5 or i7.

Also have my eye on an EVGA GTX 1070

I was going to reuse my same case, and hard drives. They are not that old. Well the case is 5+ years old but its a nice case, and fullsize



Just throwin out some ideas here. Anyone's thoughts if you build PC's ?

I mainly wan tto be able to play some of the current gen games comfortably.

Like Doom, Skyrim remake, possibly fallout 4 and wow maxed at ultra 10


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You gotta have deep pockets for those GTX 1080's Lian Li is an excellent PC case company so no need to upgrade the case.

What resolution are you gaming at? At 1080p the 1070/1080 will fully max out most modern titles at 60fps no worries.

Are you using this solely for gaming? If you're just gaming then a 6th gen i5 will be perfectly sufficient. However, if you're looking
to be more future proof or want to do photo or video editing a 6th gen i7 6700K and DDR4 ram would be a worthwhile investment.
Some may say its overkill, but if you've got GTX 1070 kinda money to spend on a PC build you may as well go all out
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I've heard good things about those high end GTX cards. But yeah, pricey!

What made you go with an AMD processor? I only ask because when I was building computers (10 years ago), the AMDs were kinda frowned upon. With their less then stellar performance, and always wanting to run hot. But this was forever ago in computer years, so they could've very well punched up their game by now.
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Good luck if you wanna switch your motherboard but keep the same OS, you best install the new drivers before switching and even then I would be hesitant...

Also @Chrisbee, I've been using an AMD FX-6300 for years and it hasn't let me down. I don't really play any video games but for my intense multitasking and some powerful programs it's held up pretty nicely for a while. Just recently I had noticed the average temperature has increased from when I got it so I cleaned out the heatsink/fan and it gave me 10 degrees C (avrg) decrease.

Only thing is though with Intel is that a lot of video games are optimized for Intel processors so it can benefit there.
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Well I built that amd system in 2009, and at the time it was the right choice for the money. I am planning to get a 1070 over a 1080 mostly due to cost, and theres not a huge difference between them. I will be buying like 1 part per paycheck, so it will be awhile before I get all the parts. I'm probaly gonna go with an i5.

And @ ElectricPlasma do you really think it would be an issue pulling my hd with win10 installed on it currently and using in a new build? I didnt think that would matter too much. it woldnt be a huge deal to reinstall windows I just hate doing so then i have to reinstall everything :P
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Just literally brought a GTX 1080 laptop half an hour ago for my VR project. It is definitely worth investing in the 1080 as it is relatively future proof for a few years at least.
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You can't just make a new system with a different motherboard and different cpu and shove an old drive into it. Windows will not boot, it doesn't work like that. Also forget what I said about installing the drivers beforehand, I really don't think that would work especially with a completely different cpu.

Also I believe with windows 10 it will completely lock the lisence key when it sees a different hardware ID.
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Yeah I did a bit of digging, Looks like I will have to do a clean install, but I can link my win10 key with my microsoft account so after I install I just log in and bam all good and activated
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Windows Keys depend on the Key, If it is a Retail Key you can install it up to 10 times without having to call in. If it is a OEM key it is tied to the first install hardware ID.

A hard drive with windows installed will not* transfer to a new system. (*99% of the time, I have seen it occur but fraught with errors)

I'd go with the i5 6600k myself. It's what I have been looking at for gaming but just can't afford at the moment.
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Thats the one I was looking into too, so far these are my choices:

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CORSAIR RMx Series RM750X 750W 80 PLUS GOLD Haswell Ready Full Modular ATX12V & EPS12V SLI and Crossfire Ready Power Supply-Newegg.com
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GTX1070 will run any game at 60fps and higher at 1080p. 1080 will work with a 4k monitor, and is perfectly playable, but cannot max out settings completely without frame rate dropping, especially as a new area loads.

No reason for 1080 unless you intend to do VR, and 4k gaming. Also always prefer intel over amd, and i5 would be perfect for gaming.

Could go with lower end PSU if you're sticking to 1070. Even 500W should be enough.

Make sure you have enough room in the case for the card too. These new cards are HUGE. I had to bend away part of the dell oem frame to make room for it.

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Just as a suggestion PCPartPicker is an invaluable tool to use for PC builds. I don't know if you use it, but it's definitely worth at least plugging in the parts you want and includes pretty much every reputable parts retailer's prices.

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I am still waiting for the GTX1080 (Pascal) drivers for Linux and MacOS to come out. Yes windows still has the gaming edge but for Video production work I use MacOS Sierra as there are a tonne of built in drivers for MAudio and native support various PRO video codecs.

I run everything on my Hackintosh and it's great to have full native support of both OS's through Clover.
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You can't just make a new system with a different motherboard and different cpu and shove an old drive into it. Windows will not boot, it doesn't work like that. Also forget what I said about installing the drivers beforehand, I really don't think that would work especially with a completely different cpu.

Also I believe with windows 10 it will completely lock the lisence key when it sees a different hardware ID.
But you can download/use windows easy transfer and it should grab all your data. You'll have to reinstall some programs but it makes the process pretty painless.
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