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I have some of my own, and I recently started a graph in the vet section.
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Great. Should be easy and fast with using some statistical software. I have just some my personal data just for my purposes, but these are not sufficient of course. Looking forward to see that.

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I should be able to quickly add trendlines to my graph.
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To me, I don't really put much value in the rep system. If anything, positive rep and activity vs negative rep is more important to me for judging users than the actual rep quantity.

The whole rep system is only a field of vBulletin (LPF's forum software). It's hard to change it much other than asking for very slight modifications or its outright removal since it's part of the overall package that runs LPF. Ultimately, it's either that or changing how we use it as a community if anybody wants change.

Honestly though, vBulletin is a bit of a relic at this point. There's a reason a lot of the popular modern social media doesn't really behave much like it anymore.
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Wow, I have been busy today so I just now got around to reading all this and it amazes me that something so unrelated to lasers, like so many other threads started here these days, is taking off and it is all thanks to a handful of people. There are less than a dozen people posting here and it is almost into page 6. I get where Bruce is coming from. I was here when things were much different than they are now. I don't pay that much attention to the rep system, myself. I am here to learn and hopefully to help people who need it where I can. I really hope this thread doesn't turn out to be as large as it seems to be becoming. I've said all I need to and don't intend to post here again.
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It is not that, as I could easily post all the photos I want. I photograph lasers almost every day! It used to be very very rare for people to have more reps than posts. Now everybody does. That was it. That is my whole point! This is something I have posted about months ago. It is not the amount of reps , but the amount of reps compared to posts. And do you what, this has really pissed my off for months which is why I kind of gave up posting here. Now that this is off my chest and moving forward I will chill out a bit. Bottom line is a few years ago nobody had more reps than posts, now a great deal of people do. That is what upset me, not the amount of reps I get. I appreciate and respect your opinion!
Bruce.. I understand where you are coming from.

To get to the 1000 post Vet entry limit quicker all
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I just did a quick check of the members posting
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Forgive me if I'm not completely in sych with your first post in this thread, I'm just too exhausted to read through all of it today. However I will add this; I wouldn't put too much concern into what is happening with the rep system, in my view it's just a way to give pats on the backs or slaps upside the head, that was its whole purpose to begin with. Later entry permissions to buy and sell were attached to the numbers, admittance into the vet section too but regardless of having 1000 posts or not, you still can't get in without being a member for a full year. At least, that was the standard I had to meet. Regarding the buy and sell requirement, it is tied to 20 posts and a positive rep, doesn't matter how many reps you have or not to use the BST section which is also moderated, requiring approval.

Here's what I thank can be done to slow the rep system inflation.

Restrict the number of reps which can be given in a day from 10 to 5, or perhaps lower. That will slow the rise down, but it won't stop it, too late now, too many members have over 10K. Also, you could chop everyone who has a rep over 1000 down to some percentage, but this artificially inflates the value of those who weren't chopped. I don't think that can work, maybe if you chopped everyones reps down by 1/10 that will slow the inflation but what have you really accomplished? The ratios will remain exactly the same, but yes, the inflation will be slowed for awhile. If it is just high numbers you don't like I don't see the point. If it is how fast the numbers are rising then limit the amount of reps which can be given a day to 1, but without also reducing everyones reps at the same time no one will be able to ever catch up to some of the guys with uber high reps, you are then limiting them.

The only real problem I see with rep inflation are the inactive member rep numbers being left in the dust, but they are inactive, so?

Only solution I can see to the out of control rep inflation is to remove the reps for everyone at one swoop and start over, but you know how well that will float among the group, lead balloon. Maybe just get rid of it all together but if you do that, don't start it up again later. Truth is, I've said this before, we don't need a rep system, not a need... but I do believe it enhances good will among members whether out of control rising or not.

My best solution regarding the sky rocketing rep system inflation is to remove the numbers, only show tiles. Let the tiles remain tied to the numbers, but the numbers themselves hidden. That way some arse here can't really damage anyones rep, at least, not that you can see, also allows us to neg rep a new arse into red if they haven't been here long enough. That sure stops the inflation, what inflation? Green tiles appear to be compressed at the top, or just don't continue further after a certain length. I had been very outspoken about removing the rep system all together two years ago when it was being abused by a member who had the highest rep here and was using it as a way to bully members. That is no longer happening because he's no longer on top to do so, problem solved, but inflation, well.... it's a rocket!
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The only real way of stopping the inflation is to have a fixed rep power instead of a variable one. A simple +1/-1 system. But it doesn't matter what system we adopt, inactive members will be left behind. Personally, I think we should just keep it how it is and embrace it instead. If the numbers start getting rediculous then we cut the numbers logarithmically.
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Alaskan, don't even worry about it, just do what makes you happy, if people want to complain about this tired old topic let them, I could care less what people think, lets run the our reps through the roof just for grins, then if someone is truly unhappy we can offer to give them a light saber.

Sorry to hear you're tired, is it hot as heck over there, your on the northern hemisphere so your seasons are the same as the USA right?

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I like it Red!
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Yea were mostly having fun with it and I rep new people to welcome them, but before when everyone was making a fuss the mods changed it to where it hardly worked when you wanted to rep something good and as these things go some of the same people often are doing something good, otherwise I just ignore it all together and sometimes I forget, but now it's mostly just for kicks.

I seriously have a lot more going on and sure don't want to go through the debate about it again, I say leave it alone of get rid of it, but lets skip the debate because it never works out, it would have to be done by the mods, I mean mods would have to dole out rep for builds, advise, safety and contributions, but as long as it's peer driven there will always be unhappy campers, except me, IDGAD even though I just spent the effort to say that
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I'm OK, just that it's getting too hot over here, 120+ in the day and had to work outside all day yesterday. I'm paid for 10 hours a day, 8 on Friday, working 7 days a week. The military work 12+ hours a day, often 14-16 and think that I should too, because I am here to support them. So if I don't do it, regardless of being paid for less hours, then I'm a shyt. In time, out here shyt's loose their jobs.
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You know a man could keep a log book and when the job is over hit them up for underpayment, or settle out for a bonus and call it a layoff so you can draw UI, hell you are into double time pay it sounds like.
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I hope things get better for you Alaskan. That really is not on ATM.
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