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Old 12-12-2016, 06:17 PM #1
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Default idea: revoke users' posting privileges whose rep is in the negative (red bars).

just something that's occurred to me - i appreciate forums aren't a democracy but this may be an idea to some -

how about revoking a user's posting rights once their rep dips into the negative? it seems management don't want to implement measures that could stem the initial flow of new users joining up to spam or post profanity, and this could allow any one of us in positive rep who comes across a spammer to neg them and immediately put a stop to whatever they are doing.

the idea occurred to me when I neg'd a new spammer and their rep bar immediately filled half with red. any new spammer isn't going to have positive rep and so a single neg from anyone who has rep should be enough to activate this condition. this leaves the decision on what to do next up to the moderator and potentially saves them a lot of extra work from any collateral that would have occurred.

it's just an idea - and if i were a newbie here I wouldn't have a problem with such a rule. If it's abused the audit trail is as plain as the nose on the front of your face and such members can have their posting rights revoked. Really, negs should be reserved for extreme circumstances of deliberate misinformation or abuse of the forum, and that can be monitored. We're a good lot here, I think we could be trusted to execute this well?


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Default Re: idea: revoke users' posting privileges whose rep is in the negative (red bars).

Interesting idea actually, and it makes sense. I wonder if the forum software has a way to implement that?

Some other limitation based off of post count or time since registering might be a good alternative if not.
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Default Re: idea: revoke users' posting privileges whose rep is in the negative (red bars).

It would be difficult for a member that made a mistake and
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I see it another incentive to open duplicate accounts.

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Making a mistake and posting profanity, **** and blatant spam on the forum are two distantly apart things.

Perhaps, though, the rule could be made null and void once a member has over, say, 25 posts, and new posts could be limited to prevent, er, spam.
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Default Re: idea: revoke users' posting privileges whose rep is in the negative (red bars).

No, because if ability to post is removed, the user is stuck in the red forever, making them more likely to go ahead and just create another account.

Simple stuff really. 24 hour delay email activation for new accounts. First 10 posts must be approved.

Profanity should just result in a temp ban initially. 3 days, or a week. A spammer or just some kid out to get a rise out of people won't have the patience to sit around and wait.

If it creates too much of a load for the mod team I'm happy to volunteer some time.
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Default Re: idea: revoke users' posting privileges whose rep is in the negative (red bars).

Profanity should not be encouraged but to ban someone for using it when there is an option for filters is just a waste of all our time. We are adults and have seen or used profanity. If you don't want to see it, turn on your filters. Attacking another user while using profanity is another story and there are already rules for that.

EDIT: Apparently there is no option to turn on or off your own profanity filter... This is a normal option with most forums.

I see no reason to allow new members to post any other "new thread" than in the introductions section. They should be allowed to post replies to existing posts.
Changing the ability for reds to not make a new thread or reply to existing threads will result in inbox private message spam to active members or new accounts being created. There is no effective way I can see to stop spam other than blocking new threads to new accounts. This is commonplace among forums.
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Accounts less than a week old can't PM. Accounts less than a 2 two days old can't create new threads other than introduction but can post in other ones. I think the 2 days to create a new thread is long enough because many join just to ask a specific question to start, for example, where to buy good glasses. Or perhaps an introduction is a requirement to make other posts. Or maybe if the person receives negatives into the red, it would deactivate the persons ability to create new threads for perhaps, 5 hours.
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No, because if ability to post is removed, the user is stuck in the red forever, making them more likely to go ahead and just create another account.
True.. but I think you're missing the point. The kind of accounts I'm talking about are the ones that sign up and 60 seconds later start posting **** or advertising. Those are the kind of accounts that we want stuck in the red forever, so they can't post anymore until the moderator comes along and deletes them.

I agree that a delay after registering and initial limit/s on posting is/are the way to go, but I recall someone here saying the management chooses not to implement these measures.
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Default Re: idea: revoke users' posting privileges whose rep is in the negative (red bars).

I do agree with IE that there should be a waiting period before new accounts can be activated and am all for it! As to how Avery can implement it, that I have no clue

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Default Re: idea: revoke users' posting privileges whose rep is in the negative (red bars).

It can't be that hard to program in a delay, to send out confirmation email. The goal there is simply to prevent people from posting who can use 10 minute email kind of services, where even if their ip was already flagged, they join, and post crap for a while before they are stopped.

24 hour delay, first 5 or 10 posts requiring approval. Won't stop all trolling/spam, but it would help.
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Doing what IE just suggested would stop all problems except the determined troll or real life actual scammer.
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Good idea Trencheel, but I also agree with IE here.
This has already been proven with a member here. He got put in the red, and then decided to open another clean account with a number two at the end.

It is nice to see that people are still trying to fix the problem though.
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Default Re: idea: revoke users' posting privileges whose rep is in the negative (red bars).

Cyparagon, there you go again, smarty pants, good point. I guess it comes down to whether the BB software can even do such a thing, if it could you might think the power to do disable someones ability to post should only be given to members who have been here awhile with a minimum number of posts, but now i am asking even more function that probably doesn't exist. A waiting period ought to be the first thing, approval for each of the first ten posts might be good too, but I do believe our sock puppet factory will just make it too much work for us to keep up with approving an even higher number of posts than before just to run the admins ragged.
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Default Re: idea: revoke users' posting privileges whose rep is in the negative (red bars).

The amount of spam occurring here has reached pretty high limits it seems. Im currently watching a TV series and cannot seem to go a couple hours without some spam thread or spam on a members visitor page!

Avery, if you are reading this please implement a way to block user posting until a verified email is issued or something similar!

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