Basics of the Rep System - Laser Pointer Forums

lasersbee · 05-09-2009, 02:53 PM

The vBulletin Software Reputation System can be setup in a number of ways..
This is what I understand about it up to this point...

(my info comes from numerous Google serches and a Web copy of the vBulletin
Manual)

The Dark Green and Light Green Bars that show on the right side of a member’s
post represent ranges of Rep Points received.

For each 100 reputation points you get an extra Rep Bar until you are at 500 then
it takes 200 point to get the next Rep Bar and so on.

Rep Points -- Dark Green Rep Power Bars -- Light Green Rep Power Bars

1-99 --------- 1 --------------------------- 0
100-199 ------ 2 --------------------------- 0
200-299 ------ 3 --------------------------- 0
300-399 ------ 4 --------------------------- 0
400-499 ------ 5 --------------------------- 0
500-699 ------ 5 --------------------------- 1
700-899 ------ 5 --------------------------- 2
900-1099 ----- 5 --------------------------- 3
1100-1299 ---- 5 --------------------------- 4
1300-1499 ---- 5 --------------------------- 5

A Dark (Non-Green) Bar means you have no Rep points.

A Red Bar means you have Negative Rep points.

If you have Zero or Negative Reps you can only give Neutral Reps (Non-Green)...

Only if you have a Positive Pep count can you give or take Positive Reps.
There may also be a minimum Rep point requirement to give or take Positive Reps.

Depending on whether the features are enabled or what values they are set to…
the length of time a member has been registered can give that member additional
Rep Power points that he can give or take.

The number of Posts and the number of Reps can also give a member extra Rep Power
points if and how it is enabled.

The number of rep points that any one member can give in a 24hr period may also
be controlled as well as the time between giving the same member additional Reps.

[EDIT since 1st posted]

- Just did a few tests with the help of Kenom on the new Rep System...
If you have (let's say) a Rep Power of 4 and you give a +Rep to a member... that
member's Rep points would increase by 4..

If on the other hand you give a -Rep to a member...
that member's Rep points will reduce by only 1/2 of your Rep Power or 2 in this case...

- Your Rep Power number is the number of Reps that will be added to a member's Rep
points when you give a Rep to a member.

- When Taking Rep points from a member only (50%) of your Rep Power number will be
removed from that member's total Rep Points.

- Also see robjdixon's post #10 below for more info on the Rep Power value.. Click here.
http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_...php?t=40221#10

- Here is a copy of the vBulletin 3 Manual that I found on the Web... I believe it's the
copy for the Software used here... The link is to the Reputation system...

http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/vboptions_reputation

- new member "karbon" found the LPF Ranking order by number of posts...here...

http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_....php?t=40839#1

If I've made an error you can PM me and I'll correct it (please include references).

Jerry

nikokapo · 05-10-2009, 04:08 PM

It's kinda confusing, I haven't gotten accustomed to it yet. But thanks for the info!

lasersbee · 05-10-2009, 04:20 PM

Yeah... you're telling me... it seems to have too many variables and
something is still not right...
Just go the the Members List and click on the Reputation button and
look at the member that has the Highest Rep on the Forum...
This member had a total of 82 posts and a rep count of 2 on the old LPF..
Now he has 92 Posts and a Rep count of 1012...

That's an extra 1000 Reps Points that I can't figure out where they came
from and why.

The Rep System still needs to be tuned... I sent a report to c0ld a few
days ago but have not yet received a reply... He must be overloaded..

Jerry

FireMyLaser · 05-10-2009, 04:29 PM

I liked the old system and want it back.

I HATE THIS ONE.

rog8811 · 05-10-2009, 04:33 PM

There is at least one zero poster who has a higher position than me.........
c0ld zapped the top one as a thankyou for the help during the changeover.

Regards rog8811

lasersbee · 05-10-2009, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rog8811

There is at least one zero poster who has a higher position than me.........
c0ld zapped the top one as a thankyou for the help during the changeover.

Regards rog8811

Yeah.... But................... 1000 points....

I mean.. if that's c0lds choice... so be it... I won't question his
decision.. But I would believe an explanation would have been
in order...

There are a lot of members here that have helped and are still
helping....

Anyway... at this juncture it seems to me like a Rep System error...
until I've been told otherwise by the persons that would know better
than I...

Jerry

nikokapo · 05-10-2009, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FireMyLaser

I liked the old system and want it back.

I HATE THIS ONE.

Yeah, now I can't see funny rep comments

lasersbee · 05-10-2009, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nikokapo

Yeah, now I can't see funny rep comments

That's the only good thing about the new Rep System

Jerry

robjdixon · 05-10-2009, 05:46 PM

I think the system is OK, but it is now skewed, because some members have had their rep reset, while others have kept it. This is very obvious when members like Jay have over 100 rep, and I have like 4. I think everyones should have been done, or no-ones

Rob

Ps this is nothing on JAy himself, just an example

robjdixon · 05-10-2009, 06:45 PM

I've found something on rep power BTW:

Quote:

1. You have two values attached to your account. REP is the total number of reputation points you've earned. REP POWER is INT(REP/100), and is the amount of rep that's given to another poster when you "rep" them. (For example, if you have 3425 rep points, your rep power is 34. Rep power also increases by a point after a certain amount of time elapses: for example, one point each month.)

seoguy · 05-11-2009, 03:49 PM

Quote:

That's an extra 1000 Reps Points that I can't figure out where they came from and why...

But I would believe an explanation would have been in order...

Anyway... at this juncture it seems to me like a Rep System error...until I've been told otherwise by the persons that would know better than I...

Damn, lasersbee, u have a short memory! -

http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_...ad.php?t=40095

c0ld also explained his decision in posts in several different threads, and even posted a separate thread announcing it here -

http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_...ad.php?t=40108

This all happened less than a week ago - is your memory really that bad, or you just trying to stir up trouble?

Quote:

I think everyones should have been done...

robjdixon, this was actually Bug #13 (Lost Reputation) in my original bug list, which I posted literally within hours of the change-over. I even offered to help fix this, but apparently the rep systems are too different.

Quote:

...or no-ones

That was what we had started-out with, but then many members were (legitimately) complaining that left ppl not being able to tell the good members from the not-so-good!

Someone suggested dumping rep & just judging ppl based on # of posts, but THAT'S no good, as like many other forums, that's just based on WHO HAS THE BIGGEST MOUTH!

There were also complaints about a lot of undeserved rep and rep abuse in the old forum (like ppl rep'ing themselves!).

So c0ld came up with a compromise solution - starting a thread dedicated to allowing ppl to request their old rep back -

http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_...putation+posts

This also solved the abuse problem (i.e. - blindly transferring undeserved reps from the old system), as c0ld was in ultimate control.

Quote:

I've found something on rep power...

Thanks, I've been wondering about what that meant, and no one else here had been able to answer that question!

Now that I understand how this new system works, let me see if I can get u back up to near where u were b4 the transfer?

Edit -

OK, robjdixon, got you within 1 point of your old rating! -

old LPF forum rep - 21
previous new forum rep - 9
upgraded new rep - 20

Enjoy!

ElektroFreak · 05-11-2009, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lasersbee

Yeah.... But................... 1000 points....

I mean.. if that's c0lds choice... so be it... I won't question his
decision.. But I would believe an explanation would have been
in order...

There are a lot of members here that have helped and are still
helping....

Anyway... at this juncture it seems to me like a Rep System error...
until I've been told otherwise by the persons that would know better
than I...

Jerry

The advice seoguy gave C0ld for those 1000 points was easily worth it. He pretty much single-handedly saved the forum from some VERY serious problems. Here's the thread: http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_...ad.php?t=40095

lasersbee · 05-11-2009, 04:06 PM

Damn seoguy....
I've PM c0ld for the last few days for some rep discrepancy explanations...
with no reply yet (I'm sure he is busy with more important matters)

Since you posted this... I now have an explanation and I'm good with this..
Your 1000 Reps is well deserved if it was given for that reason and not a
Rep system error...

I run a business and can't sit in front of my computer 24/7...to read every
last post that comes by on LPF

Rather than being insulting... you could have easily PMed me the rep explanation
links...
I'm sorry that I am not perfect like you...

I apologize if I have ruffled your feathers...
This Thread was not aimed at you... but the rep system quirks.

BTW... there's nothing wrong with my memory...

It seems to me that you are the one who wants to stir up trouble..

I do hope I'm wrong...

Jerry

lasersbee · 05-11-2009, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElektroFreak

The advice seoguy gave C0ld for those 1000 points was easily worth it. He pretty much single-handedly saved the forum from some VERY serious problems. Here's the thread: http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_...ad.php?t=40095

Hey EF...
I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve it... he definitely does for the
work he put into helping c0ldshadow.
I even posted right under his "They killed LPF!" post at around 11:00 am...
and gave him a + Rep for it...

Then c0ld gave him the 1000 Reps and posted his "I'm embarrassed" Thread
at around 6:30 pm..

I honestly did not see those 6:30pm posts... That why the thread here..
asking

to respond...

I was convinced that there was a Rep System bug... looks like I was wrong...

It would have all been solve at the beginning of this tread had some one had
simply posted...

Jerry, heres the links that explain it....

http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_pointer_forums_3/forum/showthread.php?t=40095 #16

http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_....php?t=40108#1

Jerry

lasersbee · 05-11-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robjdixon

I've found something on rep power BTW:

That helps explain the calcs used... Thanks..

Jerry

ElektroFreak · 05-11-2009, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lasersbee

Hey EF...
I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve it... he definitely does for the
work he put into helping c0ldshadow.
I even posted right under his "They killed LPF!" post at around 11:00 am...
and gave him a + Rep for it...

Then c0ld gave him the 1000 Reps and posted his "I'm embarrassed" Thread
at around 6:30 pm..

I honestly did not see those 6:30pm posts... That why the thread here..
asking

to respond...

I was convinced that there was a Rep System bug... looks like I was wrong...

It would have all been solve at the beginning of this tread had some one had
simply posted...

Jerry, heres the links that explain it....

http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_pointer_forums_3/forum/showthread.php?t=40095 #16

http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_....php?t=40108#1

Jerry

I definitely didn't mean to insinuate that you were saying he didn't deserve it, I just thought you didn't know about that.. I wasn't trying to ruffle any feathers. You know you da man Jerry..

icecruncher · 05-11-2009, 04:50 PM

I want to post this although I may get flamed for it.

I have a problem with the rep system in general. Lots of us, (not selling, learning, READING, people) try to find things on here, most of the time, before asking STUPID questions. We buy from those who sell on here and are post with results and suggestions, comments, reviews on what we've learned.

We are not gurus in any sense, but are working up the learning curve. However, rep points for us are almost impossible to get. Most go to those who are selling, (well deserved for great products)

We get none for buying from them, etc.

Let me give you a couple examples.

Do most of you know that you can take a Drlave driver and set the maximum current and then add another pot to one of the resistors and adjust from that set maximum (say 150ma or whatever) to 0? You might or might not, but it's never been discussed on the forums. I only found out because i asked regarding a project I'm working on.

http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_...ad.php?t=26775
(Only thread Ive started, I think) I gives a correction factor for the 405, albiet not 100%. At least it's a starting point and a reference for checking one 405nm against another.

I lurked for a long time and finally signed on Jan 2008. Still only 150 posts. There should be another factor involved in computing rep. points. Even if its just for purchasing from rep'd people and not being a PITA.

Most reps should go to people who contribute information and advance the forum, however many of those are sellers, and for comparison, ebay goes both ways for sellers and buyers.

lasersbee · 05-11-2009, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by icecruncher

I want to post this although I may get flamed for it.

I have a problem with the rep system in general. Lots of us, (not selling, learning, READING, people) try to find things on here, most of the time, before asking STUPID questions. We buy from those who sell on here and are post with results and suggestions, comments, reviews on what we've learned.

We are not gurus in any sense, but are working up the learning curve. However, rep points for us are almost impossible to get. Most go to those who are selling, (well deserved for great products)

We get none for buying from them, etc.

Let me give you a couple examples.

Do most of you know that you can take a Drlave driver and set the maximum current and then add another pot to one of the resistors and adjust from that set maximum (say 150ma or whatever) to 0? You might or might not, but it's never been discussed on the forums. I only found out because i asked regarding a project I'm working on.

http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_...ad.php?t=26775
(Only thread Ive started, I think) I gives a correction factor for the 405, albiet not 100%. At least it's a starting point and a reference for checking one 405nm against another.

I lurked for a long time and finally signed on Jan 2008. Still only 150 posts. There should be another factor involved in computing rep. points. Even if its just for purchasing from rep'd people and not being a PITA.

There are two other ways that you get Rep points with the new sysyem...
1) with the number of posts... (have no idea what the count is set to)
2) with the time you've been registered (have no idea what the time is set to)

BTW..if you had purchased a LaserBee I you would have received a + Rep...

Why don't you open a thread for the DrLava Drive mod... If someone finds
the info helpful they could leave you a + Rep as well..

Jerry

seoguy · 05-11-2009, 07:06 PM

lasersbee, such a lengthly rebuttal for a 3-sentence comment (in response to your multiple posts), as Shakespeare might say -

"I think the lady doth protest too much!"

Quote:

you could have easily PMed me the rep explanation

You make multiple, public posts, identifying me specifically in every way possible except by name, strongly indicating that I did not deserve this (even after rog8811 reminded you why in his post!), and then you chastise me because I replied to your public posts in this thread, and not by PM?
Are you high?

Quote:

I run a business and can't sit in front of my computer 24/7...to read every last post that comes by on LPF

'um, didn't you used-up that excuse with me already? -

Quote:

Lasersbee 2/20/09 5:31PM -
"I guess I missed that question.... I have a Personal life and Business to take care of besides checking the forum when I get a chance..."

Need to come up with a new excuse there, buddy!

Just like the circumstances back then, your excuse seems to stretch the imagination. This was posted in multiple threads, including a thread just to announce it, and including commented about multiple times in a thread you were participating in and posting comments in at the time!

As a personal observation, I thought you had turned over a new leaf in my eyes, with your helpful posts regarding fixing the new forum, and I was quite disappointed to see your multiple posts in this thread, particularly given that you knew you were targeting me specifically.

But no matter, I have more important concerns to deal with at the moment. For anybody who read the older comments in this thread, at least the record on this claimed "error" has now been set straight!

seoguy · 05-11-2009, 07:07 PM

[Plus Rep to rog8811, for coming to the defense of a member in their absence!]

(Not that he doesn't deserve it anyway!

)

BTW, rog8811, in all of the commotion of the move, did you miss my reply to your old thread here? -

http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_...ad.php?t=39068

(BTW, just edited that msg f/you to fix problems from conversion!)

robjdixon · 05-11-2009, 07:08 PM

I have just 1 thing to add - i don't want to make it out that I was complaining about my lack of reps, just the imbalance of it all. Thanks for the reps though

ElektroFreak · 05-11-2009, 07:47 PM

^off-topic, but I love the sig, rob..

robjdixon · 05-11-2009, 08:03 PM

Thanks. It is one of the normal smilies on the forum. Also, , does it convince you to buy a RGV set? My buyer bailed, so I am a little out of pocket.

ElektroFreak · 05-11-2009, 08:16 PM

It's definitely not a bad price for a set, but I've already blown my budget for this check.. if they're still on the market next week, I might snatch 'em up.. Otherwise, I hope they sell quickly for you..

lasersbee · 05-11-2009, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seoguy

lasersbee, such a lengthly rebuttal for a 3-sentence comment (in response to your multiple posts), as Shakespeare might say -

"I think the lady doth protest too much!"

You make multiple, public posts, identifying me specifically in every way possible except by name, strongly indicating that I did not deserve this (even after rog8811 reminded you why in his post!), and then you chastise me because I replied to your public posts in this thread, and not by PM?
Are you high?

'um, didn't you used-up that excuse with me already? -

Need to come up with a new excuse there, buddy!

Just like the circumstances back then, your excuse seems to stretch the imagination. This was posted in multiple threads, including a thread just to announce it, and including commented about multiple times in a thread you were participating in and posting comments in at the time!

As a personal observation, I thought you had turned over a new leaf in my eyes, with your helpful posts regarding fixing the new forum, and I was quite disappointed to see your multiple posts in this thread, particularly given that you knew you were targeting me specifically.

But no matter, I have more important concerns to deal with at the moment. For anybody who read the older comments in this thread, at least the record on this claimed "error" has now been set straight!

Hey seoguy...........

1) I've already apologized to you if you felt I slighted you.. (I did not)
2) I've already stated the reasons for the Thread/Posts..
3) I thought you had turned a new leaf... but I guess I was mistaken
4) I'm quite disappointed in your inability to see that this was NOT an
attack on you and that you made a big stink out of nothing.
5) I will not post this information again.... It's getting old...

Jerry

05-10-2009, 04:08 PM	#2
nikokapo Class 4 Laser Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Argentina Posts: 6,059 Rep Power: 238	It's kinda confusing, I haven't gotten accustomed to it yet. But thanks for the info! __________________ I like cereal. Review Compilation - All Reviews In One Thread! Diodes Compilation - All Diodes Data In One Thread! Driver Compilation - All Drivers Data In One Thread!

05-10-2009, 04:20 PM	#3
lasersbee Class 4 Laser Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 7,511 Rep Power: 297	Yeah... you're telling me... it seems to have too many variables and something is still not right... Just go the the Members List and click on the Reputation button and look at the member that has the Highest Rep on the Forum... This member had a total of 82 posts and a rep count of 2 on the old LPF.. Now he has 92 Posts and a Rep count of 1012... That's an extra 1000 Reps Points that I can't figure out where they came from and why. The Rep System still needs to be tuned... I sent a report to c0ld a few days ago but have not yet received a reply... He must be overloaded.. Jerry __________________ LASERS ■790-808nm ■650-660nm ■532nm ■445nm ■405nm (5mW - 30,000mW) METERS LaserBee I and II (shop use) + Thermopile Newport 1825-C Digital/Analog + 818T Thermopile Scientec 365 + Thermopile FREE 1 Ohm Test Load Resistors... FREE 1 Ohm Test Load Resistors HLPM II 200mW LPM Module + Shipping $54.99 HLPM II 200mW LPM Module 1 Watt LaserBee I LPM here on LPF (15% OFF) 1Watt USB LaserBee I + Data Logging LPF Members 15% discount NEW 3.2 Watt LaserBee II LPM here on LPF (10% OFF) New 3.2 Watt USB LaserBee II LPF Members 10% discount Wow New 3.2Watt USB LaserBee II LPM REVIEW Last edited by lasersbee; 05-10-2009 at 04:26 PM.

05-10-2009, 04:29 PM	#4
FireMyLaser Class 3B Laser Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,608 Rep Power: 144	I liked the old system and want it back. I HATE THIS ONE. __________________ Niko likes cereal.

05-10-2009, 04:33 PM	#5
rog8811 Class 3B Laser Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Berkshire UK Posts: 2,759 Rep Power: 136	There is at least one zero poster who has a higher position than me......... c0ld zapped the top one as a thankyou for the help during the changeover. Regards rog8811 __________________ See all of my videos on Vimeo http://www.vimeo.com/4454150 Lots of tutorials and information on lasers http://www.rog8811.com/ In the land of the blind the one eyed man..... is most likely holding the laser

05-10-2009, 05:46 PM	#9
robjdixon Class 3R Laser Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Norfolk, Uk Posts: 2,263 Rep Power: 124	I think the system is OK, but it is now skewed, because some members have had their rep reset, while others have kept it. This is very obvious when members like Jay have over 100 rep, and I have like 4. I think everyones should have been done, or no-ones Rob Ps this is nothing on JAy himself, just an example __________________ BUY SOMETHING FROM KENOM NOW

05-09-2009, 02:53 PM	#1
lasersbee Class 4 Laser Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 7,511 Rep Power: 297	Basics of the Rep System The vBulletin Software Reputation System can be setup in a number of ways.. This is what I understand about it up to this point... (my info comes from numerous Google serches and a Web copy of the vBulletin Manual) The Dark Green and Light Green Bars that show on the right side of a member’s post represent ranges of Rep Points received. For each 100 reputation points you get an extra Rep Bar until you are at 500 then it takes 200 point to get the next Rep Bar and so on. Rep Points -- Dark Green Rep Power Bars -- Light Green Rep Power Bars 1-99 --------- 1 --------------------------- 0 100-199 ------ 2 --------------------------- 0 200-299 ------ 3 --------------------------- 0 300-399 ------ 4 --------------------------- 0 400-499 ------ 5 --------------------------- 0 500-699 ------ 5 --------------------------- 1 700-899 ------ 5 --------------------------- 2 900-1099 ----- 5 --------------------------- 3 1100-1299 ---- 5 --------------------------- 4 1300-1499 ---- 5 --------------------------- 5 A Dark (Non-Green) Bar means you have no Rep points. A Red Bar means you have Negative Rep points. If you have Zero or Negative Reps you can only give Neutral Reps (Non-Green)... Only if you have a Positive Pep count can you give or take Positive Reps. There may also be a minimum Rep point requirement to give or take Positive Reps. Depending on whether the features are enabled or what values they are set to… the length of time a member has been registered can give that member additional Rep Power points that he can give or take. The number of Posts and the number of Reps can also give a member extra Rep Power points if and how it is enabled. The number of rep points that any one member can give in a 24hr period may also be controlled as well as the time between giving the same member additional Reps. [EDIT since 1st posted] - Just did a few tests with the help of Kenom on the new Rep System... If you have (let's say) a Rep Power of 4 and you give a +Rep to a member... that member's Rep points would increase by 4.. If on the other hand you give a -Rep to a member... that member's Rep points will reduce by only 1/2 of your Rep Power or 2 in this case... - Your Rep Power number is the number of Reps that will be added to a member's Rep points when you give a Rep to a member. - When Taking Rep points from a member only (50%) of your Rep Power number will be removed from that member's total Rep Points. - Also see robjdixon's post #10 below for more info on the Rep Power value.. Click here. http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_...php?t=40221#10 - Here is a copy of the vBulletin 3 Manual that I found on the Web... I believe it's the copy for the Software used here... The link is to the Reputation system... http://www.vbulletin.com/docs/html/vboptions_reputation - new member "karbon" found the LPF Ranking order by number of posts...here... http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_....php?t=40839#1 If I've made an error you can PM me and I'll correct it (please include references). Jerry __________________ LASERS ■790-808nm ■650-660nm ■532nm ■445nm ■405nm (5mW - 30,000mW) METERS LaserBee I and II (shop use) + Thermopile Newport 1825-C Digital/Analog + 818T Thermopile Scientec 365 + Thermopile FREE 1 Ohm Test Load Resistors... FREE 1 Ohm Test Load Resistors HLPM II 200mW LPM Module + Shipping $54.99 HLPM II 200mW LPM Module 1 Watt LaserBee I LPM here on LPF (15% OFF) 1Watt USB LaserBee I + Data Logging LPF Members 15% discount NEW 3.2 Watt LaserBee II LPM here on LPF (10% OFF) New 3.2 Watt USB LaserBee II LPF Members 10% discount Wow New 3.2Watt USB LaserBee II LPM REVIEW Last edited by lasersbee; 05-31-2009 at 05:48 PM.

05-11-2009, 04:06 PM	#13
lasersbee Class 4 Laser Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 7,511 Rep Power: 297	Damn seoguy.... I've PM c0ld for the last few days for some rep discrepancy explanations... with no reply yet (I'm sure he is busy with more important matters) Since you posted this... I now have an explanation and I'm good with this.. Your 1000 Reps is well deserved if it was given for that reason and not a Rep system error... I run a business and can't sit in front of my computer 24/7...to read every last post that comes by on LPF Rather than being insulting... you could have easily PMed me the rep explanation links... I'm sorry that I am not perfect like you... I apologize if I have ruffled your feathers... This Thread was not aimed at you... but the rep system quirks. BTW... there's nothing wrong with my memory... It seems to me that you are the one who wants to stir up trouble.. I do hope I'm wrong... Jerry __________________ LASERS ■790-808nm ■650-660nm ■532nm ■445nm ■405nm (5mW - 30,000mW) METERS LaserBee I and II (shop use) + Thermopile Newport 1825-C Digital/Analog + 818T Thermopile Scientec 365 + Thermopile FREE 1 Ohm Test Load Resistors... FREE 1 Ohm Test Load Resistors HLPM II 200mW LPM Module + Shipping $54.99 HLPM II 200mW LPM Module 1 Watt LaserBee I LPM here on LPF (15% OFF) 1Watt USB LaserBee I + Data Logging LPF Members 15% discount NEW 3.2 Watt LaserBee II LPM here on LPF (10% OFF) New 3.2 Watt USB LaserBee II LPF Members 10% discount Wow New 3.2Watt USB LaserBee II LPM REVIEW Last edited by lasersbee; 05-11-2009 at 04:12 PM.

05-11-2009, 04:50 PM	#17
icecruncher Class 2 Laser Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 277 Rep Power: 9	I want to post this although I may get flamed for it. I have a problem with the rep system in general. Lots of us, (not selling, learning, READING, people) try to find things on here, most of the time, before asking STUPID questions. We buy from those who sell on here and are post with results and suggestions, comments, reviews on what we've learned. We are not gurus in any sense, but are working up the learning curve. However, rep points for us are almost impossible to get. Most go to those who are selling, (well deserved for great products) We get none for buying from them, etc. Let me give you a couple examples. Do most of you know that you can take a Drlave driver and set the maximum current and then add another pot to one of the resistors and adjust from that set maximum (say 150ma or whatever) to 0? You might or might not, but it's never been discussed on the forums. I only found out because i asked regarding a project I'm working on. http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_...ad.php?t=26775 (Only thread Ive started, I think) I gives a correction factor for the 405, albiet not 100%. At least it's a starting point and a reference for checking one 405nm against another. I lurked for a long time and finally signed on Jan 2008. Still only 150 posts. There should be another factor involved in computing rep. points. Even if its just for purchasing from rep'd people and not being a PITA. Most reps should go to people who contribute information and advance the forum, however many of those are sellers, and for comparison, ebay goes both ways for sellers and buyers. Last edited by icecruncher; 05-11-2009 at 05:05 PM. Reason: added ebay comment

05-11-2009, 07:07 PM	#20
seoguy Class 1M Laser Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 248 Rep Power: 5	[Plus Rep to rog8811, for coming to the defense of a member in their absence!] (Not that he doesn't deserve it anyway!) BTW, rog8811, in all of the commotion of the move, did you miss my reply to your old thread here? - http://laserpointerforums.com/laser_...ad.php?t=39068 (BTW, just edited that msg f/you to fix problems from conversion!) Last edited by seoguy; 05-11-2009 at 07:12 PM.

05-11-2009, 07:08 PM	#21
robjdixon Class 3R Laser Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Norfolk, Uk Posts: 2,263 Rep Power: 124	I have just 1 thing to add - i don't want to make it out that I was complaining about my lack of reps, just the imbalance of it all. Thanks for the reps though __________________ BUY SOMETHING FROM KENOM NOW

05-11-2009, 07:47 PM	#22
ElektroFreak Class 3B Laser Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,081 Rep Power: 212	^off-topic, but I love the sig, rob.. __________________ Laser Resources (for n00bs and veterans alike!) Sam's Laser FAQ (The Laser Bible) http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/laserfaq.htm RP Photonics Encyclopedia of Laser Physics and Technology http://www.rp-photonics.com/encyclopedia.html 01001100 01100001 01110011 01100101 01110010 01110011 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100001 01110111 01100101 01110011 01101111 01101101 01100101 00100001

05-11-2009, 08:03 PM	#23
robjdixon Class 3R Laser Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Norfolk, Uk Posts: 2,263 Rep Power: 124	Thanks. It is one of the normal smilies on the forum. Also, , does it convince you to buy a RGV set? My buyer bailed, so I am a little out of pocket. __________________ BUY SOMETHING FROM KENOM NOW

05-11-2009, 08:16 PM	#24
ElektroFreak Class 3B Laser Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,081 Rep Power: 212	It's definitely not a bad price for a set, but I've already blown my budget for this check.. if they're still on the market next week, I might snatch 'em up.. Otherwise, I hope they sell quickly for you.. __________________ Laser Resources (for n00bs and veterans alike!) Sam's Laser FAQ (The Laser Bible) http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/laserfaq.htm RP Photonics Encyclopedia of Laser Physics and Technology http://www.rp-photonics.com/encyclopedia.html 01001100 01100001 01110011 01100101 01110010 01110011 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01100001 01110111 01100101 01110011 01101111 01101101 01100101 00100001

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