allow banned users to read

ixfd64 · Dec 1, 2008

Some users on another forum were saying that they can't read posts here due to being banned. While banned users obviously shouldn't be allowed to post, I don't see why they shouldn't be able to read the forum.

Any thoughts?

HumanSymphony · Dec 1, 2008

hmm, i thought this was already implemented :-/ wes is banned, but you can see on his profile he still logs in every day :-/

ndrew2505 · Dec 1, 2008

if someone gets banned from the bar i work at do i let them stand at the window and look in? :-/ no..

ixfd64 · Dec 2, 2008

The forum contains a lot of information that can be useful, such as the tutorials. Just because someone isn't allowed to post doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to read.

ndrew2505 · Dec 2, 2008

ixfd64 said:
The forum contains a lot of information that can be useful, such as the tutorials. Just because someone isn't allowed to post doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to read.

the forum is a tool. if we ban them and then let them read it theyre still able to use it. wheres the punishment in that?

pseudolobster · Dec 2, 2008

If the bans here are based on your IP, that could be really inconvenient for a lot of people either at schools, businesses, internet cafes, libraries, heck even some small towns all share one IP address... That would mean every single person from that school, business, or town is all banned and is unable to read the forum.

spyrorocks · Dec 2, 2008

After running my own moderately popular forum for over 2 years, I have realized that IP bans must be done, and I have not ever had one complaint about users not being able to access the forum because of another member that got a shared IP address banned.

thebucketmouse · Dec 2, 2008

drew said:
[quote author=ixfd64 link=1228120251/0#4 date=1228178705]The forum contains a lot of information that can be useful, such as the tutorials. Just because someone isn't allowed to post doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to read.

the forum is a tool. if we ban them and then let them read it theyre still able to use it. wheres the punishment in that?[/quote]

I'd say a ban is not so much to punish the person, but to keep us from being distracted by their crap every day. There would be no harm in allowing banned people to still read the forums.

rocketparrotlet · Dec 3, 2008

spyrorocks said:
After running my own moderately popular forum for over 2 years, I have realized that IP bans must be done, and I have not ever had one complaint about users not being able to access the forum because of another member that got a shared IP address banned.

This has happened to me before, with a school IP. Someone I knew got the IP banned, and I actually needed to use the website as a resource for multiple school projects I was doing, and having to do it at home was a huge pain. The ban lasted for a year.

thebucketmouse said:
[quote author=drew link=1228120251/0#5 date=1228180743][quote author=ixfd64 link=1228120251/0#4 date=1228178705]The forum contains a lot of information that can be useful, such as the tutorials. Just because someone isn't allowed to post doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to read.

the forum is a tool. if we ban them and then let them read it theyre still able to use it. wheres the punishment in that?[/quote]

I'd say a ban is not so much to punish the person, but to keep us from being distracted by their crap every day. There would be no harm in allowing banned people to still read the forums.[/quote]

My thoughts exactly.

-Mark

Kris.J · Dec 3, 2008

ixfd64 said:
Just because someone isn't allowed to post doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to read.

Bah, yes it does. What part of "banned" do you not understand?

I've been admin'ing vBulletin sites 7+ years now - BANNED = you are not even able to load the URL in your browser.

As it should be.

Edit:

One of my all time favorite settings in vBulletin is called "Tachy goes to Coventry".

When you put someone on Tachy goes to Coventry status, they can read the forums, they can post on the forums, see their own posts, etc. - but nobody else can see their posts. Tachy is completely invisible in the eyes of the rest of the community. I'm told it's quite frustrating for the Tachy-fied person! ;D

MarioMaster · Dec 3, 2008

lol global ignore

rocketparrotlet · Dec 4, 2008

Kris.J said:
[quote author=ixfd64 link=1228120251/0#4 date=1228178705]Just because someone isn't allowed to post doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to read.

Bah, yes it does. What part of "banned" do you not understand?

I've been admin'ing vBulletin sites 7+ years now - BANNED = you are not even able to load the URL in your browser.

As it should be.

Edit:

One of my all time favorite settings in vBulletin is called "Tachy goes to Coventry".

When you put someone on Tachy goes to Coventry status, they can read the forums, they can post on the forums, see their own posts, etc. - but nobody else can see their posts. Tachy is completely invisible in the eyes of the rest of the community. I'm told it's quite frustrating for the Tachy-fied person! ;D

[/quote]

The reason it is important to allow reading but not posting is because of (as previously mentioned) the blocking of a public IP.

That Tachy idea sounds perfect!

-Mark

MarioMaster · Dec 4, 2008

Personally I think those who are banned need to stay IP banned - if someone has a problem with a public area ban they can always contact the forum admin to have the ban adjusted. You'd be amazed at how simple things become if you just take 5 seconds to shoot a friendly email.

Kris.J · Dec 5, 2008

MarioMaster said:
Personally I think those who are banned need to stay IP banned - if someone has a problem with a public area ban they can always contact the forum admin to have the ban adjusted. You'd be amazed at how simple things become if you just take 5 seconds to shoot a friendly email.

Right on - and with Internet access being so ubiquitous these days, it's super easy to change up your source IP if you really want to get past an IP ban.

The sense of entitlement in the current teenage generation is disturbing.

Razako · Dec 5, 2008

1 word.
PROXY

rocketparrotlet · Dec 5, 2008

Kris.J said:
Right on - and with Internet access being so ubiquitous these days, it's super easy to change up your source IP if you really want to get past an IP ban.

This is why I think that IP banning is not too useful, and more of a hindrance than a help.

MarioMaster- You've got a good point, though.

Kris.J said:
The sense of entitlement in the current teenage generation is disturbing.

Because we're all the same horrible monsters who lack common sense, respect, souls, etc.

Do you label everybody like this?

-Mark

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