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Do you carry your laser as self defense at night?
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A photoshopped picture of an assault rifle with a laser pasted on? :thinking:
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It's off of Wicked Lasers facebook page under new products. Looks like a Spyder II with a rail mount and a remote switch. I am assuming it is supposed to be used as a dazzler at checkpoints before opening fire with the rifle.
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Military and Law enforcement wouldn't use WickedLasers' products.
I can hardly imagine a Spyder II as an effective "dazzler."
The picture is just typical WL advertising... the purpose of this picture is to make people believe that WL produces Military Spec technology, which is not the case.
Besides, if a vehicle is speeding toward me in an active war-zone or at a checkpoint, a couple of well placed lead slugs would be more than sufficient for stopping said vehicle.
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Wicked lasers did sell a unit called a Photonic Dazzler that they would only sell to military and law enforcement, although It has been pulled down from their site recently. The picture is obviously a photoshop, but I think it's cool none the less.
As for the well placed slugs, I'm pretty sure the rules of engagement wouldn't allow that without first trying the dazzler or some other warning method. As it currently stands our troops are very limited as to when they are even allowed to return fire (even when being shot at).
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The "Photonic Disruptor" was sold commercially. It was recently discontinued. It was a 100mW green laser pointer in a water-resistant casing. Nothing special. Not mil-spec.
I don't trust any of Wicked's marketing hype. Their rumored military and law enforcement contracts sound like lies to me.
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Well, the original version was only sold to law enforcement/military. It was also focusable (was the newer version focusable?).
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The newer version was not focusable.
The older one (rubberized and pen-size) was not created by WL. I remember seeing it on "Future Weapons" (I hate that show) long before Wicked sold it.
Even that one seemed limited in its uses as a "dazzler." I remember Wicked's specs were listed as 60 sec. duty cycle, 30 min. battery life (AAA), momentary push button switch, and CW.
I think that after the military decided it was better suited for astronomers and cat-lovers, they dumped their stock in a garbage bin for Steve Liu to pick up.
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@ HIMNL9 and quadcam,
IMHO, A poorly trained dog is more dangerous than any handheld laser! Sorry if I've missed some important fact previous to the posts I've read between you two but I have a Rottweiler, (plus 3 prior to this one), and can attest to their temperament. You need to be a strong owner to control them but they are loyal and can be docile if contained. I have my doubts regards total trust of this praticular breed as they can be spontaneous and frankly are not the smartest. This last one is a rescue dog and I think has a little Staffordshire Bull Terrier in her. This actually calms her quite a lot but she still requires a firm hand.
As with lasers, a firm, even handed approach prevents accidents.
[EDIT: I do realise that this was a little off topic so I apologise for that.]
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IMHO, A poorly trained dog is more dangerous than any handheld laser! Sorry if I've missed some important fact previous to the posts I've read between you two but I have a Rottweiler, (plus 3 prior to this one), and can attest to their temperament. You need to be a strong owner to control them but they are loyal and can be docile if contained. I have my doubts regards total trust of this praticular breed as they can be spontaneous and frankly are not the smartest. This last one is a rescue dog and I think has a little Staffordshire Bull Terrier in her. This actually calms her quite a lot but she still requires a firm hand.
As with lasers, a firm, even handed approach prevents accidents.
[EDIT: I do realise that this was a little off topic so I apologise for that.]
M
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Now using them to spook wild animals, that is a different story....
I live out in the country, and a powerful laser pointer is perfect to keep coyotes away, never tried it on a bear
I've been wondering how effective a laser would be for spooking the critters off. I'm moving to place that's had problems with wolves, coyotes, moose, and bear.
Thanks!!!
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Sounds like an experiment ICU.
I carry a knife, and I do krav maga for fun, so, should be set. But normally I always keep the 100mw greenie on me, just for random "hey, I can hit that, from here... with this tiny thing... OMG"
I carry a knife, and I do krav maga for fun, so, should be set. But normally I always keep the 100mw greenie on me, just for random "hey, I can hit that, from here... with this tiny thing... OMG"
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@ HIMNL9 and quadcam,
IMHO, A poorly trained dog is more dangerous than any handheld laser! Sorry if I've missed some important fact previous to the posts I've read between you two but I have a Rottweiler, (plus 3 prior to this one), and can attest to their temperament. You need to be a strong owner to control them but they are loyal and can be docile if contained. I have my doubts regards total trust of this praticular breed as they can be spontaneous and frankly are not the smartest. This last one is a rescue dog and I think has a little Staffordshire Bull Terrier in her. This actually calms her quite a lot but she still requires a firm hand.
As with lasers, a firm, even handed approach prevents accidents.
[EDIT: I do realise that this was a little off topic so I apologise for that.]
M
I agree completely.
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A 100mw pen green (no keys or locks) with a fixed focus cap that defuses the beam to about head sized at 20 feet would be quite a good way of distracting an unarmed assailant. WL do a pen cap that would probably do the job.
At that distance it would be equivalent of a direct hit by perhaps 0.1 mw. It doesn't sound like much and would be completely harmless, but would still be shockingly bright and dazzling, particularly in darkness. Accuracy would not be important if the beam "spot" is already head sized.
Obviously this would be no good against somebody who is armed with a gun, but in the UK that is not really an issue, and it would give a few seconds extra to run away. Plus of course you can "fire" it repeatedly.
At that distance it would be equivalent of a direct hit by perhaps 0.1 mw. It doesn't sound like much and would be completely harmless, but would still be shockingly bright and dazzling, particularly in darkness. Accuracy would not be important if the beam "spot" is already head sized.
Obviously this would be no good against somebody who is armed with a gun, but in the UK that is not really an issue, and it would give a few seconds extra to run away. Plus of course you can "fire" it repeatedly.
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this has a laser, does it count?
lol
lol
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Of course.this has a laser, does it count?
lol
Do you carry that around at night for self defense?
I think that anyone who sees you walking down the street with this they would think twice before trying to start S**t with you.
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