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Old 08-17-2008, 12:29 AM #1
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I was burning some junk with my red DX200 and i had this zip-tie, I tried to burn through it and cut it but it doesn't work. I want to be bale to cut it clean. It is sort of glossy on the side that faces me, but it doesn't reflect much light. I had it down to a pin point and it was darn near impossible to burn. what would it take to cut it?


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Zip-ties are really thick, dude. Even my 200+mW DIY can't come close to getting through one. You'd need more than 300.
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Default Re: what would it take too....

doesn't blu-ray burn through white/foggy white really good?
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Default Re: what would it take too....

blu-rays burn better, but the limit of them is really 200mW, with about 150mW being a safer area. That would do better, but probably still not powerful enough.
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Default Re: what would it take too....

do you think a blu-ray could melt plastic white/foggy plastic string like the kind that comes on clothing tags?
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I think its the deep IR lasers that can melt trhough clear stuff. Not sure if its only IR tho
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Default Re: what would it take too....

Both IR and UV are less fussy about colour. My blu-ray burns through clean white paper ^_^ I know that CO2 lasers definitely burn every colour, but I don't know about 808nm pump diodes. I have little to know knowledge of them... o.o
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Default Re: what would it take too....

the NIR stuff is really sensitive to color. It doesn't like anything that's not black or dark, but the deep IR stuff will burn anything

When it doubt, sharpie the zip tie. When it burns through to the clear again, sharpie again. Burn, sharpie, burn, sharpie, burn etc until you're through
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Aren't there black zip ties? -_-
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Default Re: what would it take too....

yes im using black zip-ties. So mabey i should look into IR? or am i better off with a blu-ray?
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Default Re: what would it take too....

Like GooeyGus said, Near IR can be picky on what it likes to burn. I have this black mouse pad that I tried to burn with a 100mW 780nm module I had but it wouldn't touch it. I took a picture of it with an IR camera and sure enough it was white under IR light. Same thing with skin, it is very hard to burn skin with IR compared to green.

If you want to burn nearly anything, look into deep IR. A CO2 laser would be nice for you, unless you want to burn zinc selenide.
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I need something more portable then a CO2 laser system, I was hoping to get either a pen style blu-ray or a pen style IR.
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do you think a blu-ray could melt plastic white/foggy plastic string like the kind that comes on clothing tags?

You planning on doing some "shopping" in the dressing room? [smiley=evil.gif]

If you are serious about wanting to "burn" stuff, I suggest you go with something more substantial that a "pen" style. The more powerful, the more heat generated. Pen style housings are NOT great for heat sinking, I like the look of them. One of my next projects is going to be in a leadlight case, but no one even pretends that they are getting effective heat sinking out of them.

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Default Re: what would it take too....

No, Dave its not for burning off clothing tags...

I just need it to melt the black zip tie(or a foggy string), how long would it take a powerful IR that can fit in a pen to melt it enough for it to split or separate.
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No, Dave its not for burning off clothing tags...

I just need it to melt the black zip tie(or a foggy string), how long would it take a powerful IR that can fit in a pen to melt it enough for it to split or separate.

Sorry. I'm not a "burner." I play with lasers for the beams and spots. I have no use for IR except to drive a crystal set to get blue, green, or yellow.

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I'm more into colors myself, but i need this for 'special' purposes.
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