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Old 01-03-2017, 06:22 AM #17
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Ben, I have no disagreement with anything in your last post, for that matter, anything I've seen you post yet.

Steve, I have issues with many of the so called skeptics today, they aren't, they just want to disagree and have closed minds. A real skeptic does not do that, they have open minds to see alternative views, not closed minds to shut down alternative views. I suppose the whole thing is a yin-yang anyway, the white or black sides depending upon where you stand.

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Sorry, but that did not look like an electrical discharge to me. Aside from the fact that it wasnt flared, or forked and was narrow and focused, what ever it was was travelling along a set trajectory. No idea what it was but it was very interesting to see the unidentified object change course so quickly...just beforehand.
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Such one-time videos are a bit problematic when it comes to explaining what you see.

One problem is their resolution/quality is limited to begin with, but you're also looking at something from a single specific angle.

Perhaps i can be a bit of a skeptic by nature, but i'm always open to evidence. I'm skeptical in the sense that the further fetched some idea sounds, the stronger the evidence for it as to be to convince me. If you want to convince me that a cat can run at 35 mp/h i'll almost take your word for that, and be fine with a blurry video that demonstrates it. If you want to convince me that aliens are walking on earth right now i'll probably demand you deliver me a living specimen. If it was me you had to convice you might have a harder time catching that cat compared to the alien, but then again, who cares what i'm conviced off or not

These sprites above thunderstoms for example seem to be something observed by multiple people over a long period of time. This makes it at least likely that they are a real phenomenon, regardless of how they actually work.

The benefit of all that is that we can actually study it: we know thunderstorms are not that rare, we have weather prediction models that allows us to predict where one is likely to occur, and we have equipment to investigate them from surface, air and space.

The only thing stopping a random person from investigating them in detail is cost. Some blue light blasting out the far end of a thunderstorm, apparently doing little harm in the way, is not something you'd get huge amounts of funding for to research.
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What makes you assume that it is a weapon? What's the context of this footage?

It doesn't look like anything, honestly. There is no sense of scale.
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Some individuals theorize a weapon was being shoot at a UFO in this video. I've seen this same video on YouTube a few times with such speculations.
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What makes people think it's a shot of space? Who took this footage, where, and when? I can see how people like to theorize about this when it is so vague. Not a very scientific approach.
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Well yeah, that would not be the most likely theory to come to mind to me either.

Then again the scientific method is rare when it comes to poeple seeing these things, and 'it cannot be explained on the basis of the little evidence we have' doesn't even come to mind. This is often an important thing: lack of information.

You can be easily fooled by a magic trick done by some guy on a stage.

Film that performance from many angles with highspeed camera's and you'll probably be able to work out where a card went, how some girl appeared in a box, or to see a bullet actually flies before the magician catches it with his teeth.

Magic tricks are obviously illusions done on purpose and designed to confuse, but we are also sensitive to the same principles when it comes to this we cannot explain right away.

For millenia people have believed that lightning was caused by gods, only discoveries in the last few hundred years have proven that explanation wrong.
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