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I believe the original idea of using a transporter on the original Star Trek shows was to limit expenses on the show. It wasn't to further some concept of transportation, but a way of having to use fewer mock ups of shuttle craft and "special effects", such as they were in the 1960s and early 1970s. Funny that people are considering it as a possibility now.
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Teleportation? Did I hear someone say "quantum teleportation"?

OK, Ladies and Gentlemen, here you go--have fun >>> wrap your imaginings/imaginations around this one.

>>>10 July 2017 MIT Technology Review -- Connectivity -- First Object Teleported from Earth to Orbit!<<<
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...arth-to-orbit/


Original Abstract 4 July 2017, here: https://arxiv.org/abs/1707.00934

.PDF of original paper here--very nice full color diagrams and charts at end of paper too: https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1707/1707.00934.pdf

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That's exactly what we are talking about Encap. RCB shared a video on it.
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That's exactly what we are talking about Encap. RCB shared a video on it.
I came to the thread a a few posts late--didn't see the video--will go back and look at it

Is interesting but what is claimed is a single photon and only some of the time and only under certain conditions, if it is true/vaild is a far cry from teleportation of anything but one photon.

Is very interesting, nevertherless, -- extrapolation based on that may or may not be valid/hold water.

At least the subject woke me up. lol

Edit: Have a look at the real paper---the .PDF is much better and more complete than poor quality reading of an article about the paper/work by someone who can barely speak what he is reading as he reads it.
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No problem Encap.
Yes it sure is interesting. Thanks for sharing that PDF. I'll give that a read tomorrow. One photon is better than no photon.
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I still have questions about this quantum entanglement, it would be fantastic if true as deep space communications could be sped up from days or more to mere moments, basically this could break the speed of light, if it's true, it seems to have a lot of effort going into it.

This was blown way out of proportion. The concept has already been thoroughly explored and tested at long distances. The only thing different about this is that it was done using a satellite.

The thing about entangled particles is that there's no way to actually use the information shared between them. If one particle's wave function is collapsed, the output is random, and if the other particle is observed then it will exhibit properties opposite of the first particle, but it will still be random. The two observers still have to communicate their results classically before they can extract any information out of the observed state. While the particles do appear to communicate faster than light, QM will always have a way to prevent us from doing anything useful with it (aside from maybe encryption).
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But.... Why does the universe exist? True, the only difference is the distance, it still works at any distance, we know that.
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wait! he's painting with his...... - The Green Room - Atomic À
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Wow Pete, unfortunately, that's one of those things that just can't be un-seen!
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This was blown way out of proportion. The concept has already been thoroughly explored and tested at long distances. The only thing different about this is that it was done using a satellite.

The thing about entangled particles is that there's no way to actually use the information shared between them. If one particle's wave function is collapsed, the output is random, and if the other particle is observed then it will exhibit properties opposite of the first particle, but it will still be random. The two observers still have to communicate their results classically before they can extract any information out of the observed state. While the particles do appear to communicate faster than light, QM will always have a way to prevent us from doing anything useful with it (aside from maybe encryption).
Good comment--very true--is scientists marketing and trolling for funding $s by blowing their findings way out of proportion.
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Most all of "quantum" anything---it is an entirely artificial framework/lattice---a human mind created tool that some find a useful tool in some situations, not an absolute or complete explaination or representation of how things really are in real world reality.
Quantum theory is just another way of looking at what you already know. Only what actually happens can happen ---there is no "probability" in the real world of any other outcome or anything else happening----the proof is what happened, happened.

As to use in communications --see interesting explaination "The Real Reasons Quantum Entanglement Doesn't Allow Faster-Than-Light Communication" here:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chadorz.../#432141423ad0

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