Sign the petition please

millirad · Sep 11, 2010

If you have seen the viral youtube video of the stoning of that poor woman and were sickened by the brutality, sign the petition in 2007Revolution's signature. Thanks

lasersbee · Sep 11, 2010

In our day and age that is revolting and disgusting and shows
their caveman like mentality....

I wonder if they burn witches at the stake over there...

Jerry

Morgan · Sep 11, 2010

Hey Jerry, I totally agree and will sign the petition.

On a similar subject and not to be inflammatory but some in the US are not that far from similar levels of bigotry. Koran burning? Is that really going to help anyone?

Here's the link in Rev2007's sig -

http://freesakineh.org/

M

daguin · Sep 11, 2010

Morgan said:
Hey Jerry, I totally agree and will sign the petition.

On a similar subject and not to be inflammatory but some in the US are not that far from similar levels of bigotry. Koran burning? Is that really going to help anyone?

Here's the link in Rev2007's sig -

Free Sakineh

M

The right of free speech does not pertain to only pleasant or nice speech.

Offensive speech is still protected speech

Peace,
dave

DTR · Sep 11, 2010

daguin said:
The right of free speech does not pertain to only pleasant or nice speech.

Offensive speech is still protected speech

Peace,
dave

I have to agree with Dave.

I may not agree with burning a Koran and it definitely does not help build any bridges but I would fight and die for their right to do it. And I do have to say that you can't even compare burning a BOOK(paper and ink symbolism aside) with stoning(throwing rocks at her till her skull caves in and she dies of blunt trauma) a woman to death. Or anyone for that matter even a murderer sentenced to death. It is cruel an inhumane.

Razako · Sep 11, 2010

Not sure why muslims are so worried about US defiling their holy book when they already do that themselves with their stonings and retarded laws :gun:

GoRdOn_B · Sep 11, 2010

I don't think its our place to tell outsiders how to run their way of life, especially when they do not agree with ours. we can not pick and choose what side of sharia law we agree with. Especially for non-muslims.

DTR · Sep 11, 2010

GoRdOn_B said:
I don't think its our place to tell outsiders how to run their way of life, especially when they do not agree with ours. we can not pick and choose what side of sharia law we agree with. Especially for non-muslims.

Tell that to the girl that got her skull bashed in repeatedly because of a punishment(not the law she broke) that defies the most basic human rights. Try to imagine the fear and anguish she felt. If you did can you really say that kind of sentence is not barbaric for any crime(if there even was one).

And as far as burning the Koran goes how many bibles do you think get burned in Muslim countries every day in demonstrations. You don't see Catholics getting all worked up about it. I also believe they have the right to express their views as well as long as it is non violent and does not impede someone else's right to expression.

Coherent Light · Sep 11, 2010

Sharia Law = Intolerance

Razako · Sep 11, 2010

DTR said:
Tell that to the girl that got her skull bashed in repeatedly because of a punishment(not the law she broke) that defies the most basic human rights. Try to imagine the fear and anguish she felt. If you did can you really say that kind of sentence is not barbaric for any crime(if there even was one).

Idk I'd fully support stoning of child molesters, mothers who strangle their children, serial killers/rapists and other degenerates:beer:

DTR · Sep 11, 2010

Razako said:
Idk I'd fully support stoning of child molesters, mothers who strangle their children, serial killers/rapists and other degenerates:beer:

I also feel that those people are despicable and not worthy of my pity about what happens to them. But beyond making sure they never have the opportunity to do it to anyone else eye for an eye only serves to degrade the morality that we seek.

I am for the death penalty but not for the reason of revenge. But when the only way to ensure the safety of the community when there is no hope of rehabilitation.

daguin · Sep 11, 2010

The Koran is just a book.

Just like; The Analects, The Bhagavad Gita, The Five Classics, The New Testament, The Old Testament, The Talmud, The Tao-te-ching, The Veda, The Torah, etc. are just books.

It is made of paper and ink. It is made of the very same things that burn in incinerators all over the world every day.

It is NOT The Prophet. It is NOT any god. It is incapable of feeling offended or wronged. It is NOT a belief. It is NOT an idea. It is NOT a concept. It is NOT a person.

It is a thing.

When people begin to believe that a THING is more important than ideas and/or people, something is VERY wrong with the belief system that supports that view.

Is that my opinion? -- You bet.
Do I have the right to express that opinion in the US? -- You bet

So does the guy burning the Korans

Peace,
dave

JLSE · Sep 11, 2010

Just for the record, the pastor decided not to burn the books.
Perhaps he felt there would be more support than there was,
being the 11th and all..

daguin · Sep 11, 2010

wannaburn said:
Just for the record, the pastor decided not to burn the books.
Perhaps he felt there would be more support than there was,
being the 11th and all..

Maybe he accomplished the goal of instigating discussion without endangering himself or others

Maybe he just got scared

Peace,
dave

**EDIT** -- Pure conjecture -- I have NOT read his position or explanation. I've been busy with the house

Gata · Sep 11, 2010

What exactly is signing this petition going to potentially lead to down the road? I really don't get it.

And why this women? This probably happens all the time in the middle east, this one just happened to be caught on tape. Is this a stand for her or for all that have suffered similar brutality?

Ears and Eggs · Sep 11, 2010

What I find really funny about all this as a Muslim is that burning a Qur'an is actually the correct way of disposing of a damaged/unwanted copy. I don't think there was ever any doubt that it is within his rights of freedom of speech/expression to do what he had suggested, but maybe sometimes a little common sense could come into play. We don't always have to do things that were are technically allowed to. I mean I may have the right to march around today on 9/11 with an Al Qaeda flag (OBVIOUSLY I do not support them, just an example here) and troll people, but I would never do this out of respect for myself and others around me. Looks he called it off after all, so he came to his senses, maybe he'll actually read one of those Qur'ans how instead of burning them .

Anyway, back on topic, you'll find the link to the petition in my signature. Latest news on Sakineh from Wiki:

On September 8, 2010, Ramin Mehmanparast, a spokesman for the Iranian foreign ministry, confirmed that the government had suspended the stoning sentence. He said that officials were still moving forward with sentencing her for her role in the killing of her husband. Ashtiani still faces a prison term or execution by hanging for the charges outstanding against her. Mehmanparast further stated that she was guilty of both adultery and murder and that her case was undeserving of the international attention it had drawn. He said that releasing "murderers" should not be made into a human rights issue and called on countries criticising Iran to release all their murderers as well.

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