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And I'm supposed to drive my younger brother to movie-theater today. He wanted to go and wait in line several hours before...
 
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Wouldn't this be a very good reason why more people should carry in public.

just imagine if only 2 or 3 other good citizens had been armed maybe only a couple people would have been injured instead of this slaughter 12/58

my condolences to the families...
 
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While I am all for more legally armed folks, a couple of thing to note:

1) This happened in an open carry state. I assume more folks are armed there then less tolerant gun states.
2) It sees to me that this wacko actually took that into account. He opened fire in a darkened movie theater where returning fire would have been extremely difficult under normal conditions without risking additional life. On top of this it's been reported that he used some type of tear gas / smoke device. I assume this was to provide cover as he was assuming others might be armed.

Of course I'm just guessing here but I do hate the fact that so many people are pointing to this tragic event to push gun control "reform".
 
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Although I don't have a source, I remember reading some were that the theater didn't allow CC firearms through the doors.
 
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I hadn't heard that, but I know there was talk about searching bags and other items after this happened. Of course that wouldn't have stopped this from happening either. Reports have said he may have entered the theater normally, let himself out through the back doors, and retrieved his weapons. (propping the door open in the process)

Btw: The great thing about a no CC policy at a business is its only an issue if they see it. If they see it you aren't doing the concealed part correctly. ;) Even if they do see it, normally the worst that will happen is they will ask you to leave. Failure to do that when asked can set you up for a trespassing charge, not a weapons charge.

Of course that doesn't apply at high security locations such as government bldgs and airports.
 
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You can't legislate against these kinds of acts. The only way to "do" anything about these kinds of acts of terrorism is to hit it at the source. There were obvious warning signs that the suspect was unstable. The Gun range was actually where something could have been done, but they ignored the very odd "alarming" call.
There are also a select few that are attracted to Psychology to mend something that is damaged or missing for themselves. I have seen this a few times myself.
Education department at my University had an Adolescent Psychologist who was recovering from a bitter divorce in the US. She would come to University high on anti-depressant medication. She was a total basket case to deal with. I had her class, and more than a few times she would be "sick"... Our class we were paying for would be cancelled. Finally the dean had to step in and get a "sub" for our class.
 
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There is no one to blame here except this nut job:

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Lots of people have tough lives, and bad childhoods. They don't turn to mass murder.

The gun range owner, what more could he do? Call the cops, and say "Hey, I had a strange applicant who has weird answering machine messages!" At the most, the cops would note it, but that's where it would end.

The guns were not illegally purchased. But than neither are most of the knives used in stabbings. In fact, I feel rather safe saying that more legally purchased knives were used, proportionally, than legally purchased guns, in the commission of crimes.

He did not act sufficiently to attract the attention of anyone.

Was not physically, or mentally disabled.

There are some articles that now mention that he sent a notebook, with disturbing writings to a psychologist (maybe psychiatrist, not sure) so while we're at it, why don't we blame a medical professional for not speaking up.

Except that the only time a doctor can break patient confidentiality is with a patient's permission, after the patient is dead, or if the doctor believes the patient is likely to do harm to himself or others. Outside these parameters, the doctor would be risking their career, and reputation.

Is the theater to blame? Again. No. Thousands of people head out to the movies everyday. How often does something like this occur? As far as I know, this is the first time.

Of course now millions will be spent on prosecuting this piece of trash, to inevitably find him either sentenced to life in prison, or death. If it's death, he'll still be alive for many more years.

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While I agree with you to a point, the message left
by the shooter at the range was a major alarm bell.
Apparently the FBI is still examining everything
so nothing really new is being released to the public.
A fellow I know from a few years ago belongs to the range.
The message was threatening an act of violence, also the
University Psychologist had been contacted by the killer to seek help.
But we are unsure of what happened after this.

The killer is ultimately to blame for his actions but, we see signs things
were headed downhill fast.
 
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I heard on the news that this Lethal Moron referred
to himself as "the Joker"...

Put a red nose on him and he looks more like a clueless
Clown to me...:crackup:


Jerry

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Wait, is it legal to carry guns in public in some states? Wow.. I thought the US laws were wacked up already with allowing you to possess a weapon at home or kill whoever enters your grounds, but carrying them in public!! When will the US realise they have like the highest rate of murdering of any country because of the law...

If the law didnt allow weapons in the first place then good people wouldnt have to wear them to prevent accidents in the second place..
 
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Most US states allow for some sort of carry legally. Most states you have to have a license to do so. Some allow for open carry (non concealed) without any license. Kentucky is the one I know for sure. To carry concealed in Kentucky you have to be licensed which requires a trivial fee and requires a gun safety training class.

States such as Indiana do not require any training and simply a fee of something like $75.00 for a lifetime license or a little less for one you have to renew every three years.
 

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Wait, is it legal to carry guns in public in some states? Wow.. I thought the US laws were wacked up already with allowing you to possess a weapon at home or kill whoever enters your grounds, but carrying them in public!! When will the US realise they have like the highest rate of murdering of any country because of the law...

If the law didnt allow weapons in the first place then good people wouldnt have to wear them to prevent accidents in the second place..

Most US states allow for some sort of carry legally. Most states you have to have a license to do so. Some allow for open carry (non concealed) without any license. Kentucky is the one I know for sure. To carry concealed in Kentucky you have to be licensed which requires a trivial fee and requires a gun safety training class.

States such as Indiana do not require any training and simply a fee of something like $75.00 for a lifetime license or a little less for one you have to renew every three years.


 

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