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Old 01-28-2007, 11:43 PM #33
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Default Re: You say unbiased...I say where?

Yeah, if he replies back to me and says it Ok I will post it immediately...I sure hope he does, cause if he doesn't its going to make me look like a jackass.(even more so )


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Ok this thread will remain open until you do then.
Otherwise we are flogging a dead horse and the only sensible to do then is just lock the thread...
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Default Re: You say unbiased...I say where?

Ok, Nero said it was Ok for me to post his reply. But there is some things he did not want me to post due to them being personal and or confidential, and I will edit those out. But here's the jist of it.

here is what I wrote him

"Hey Nero,

I was reading in the laserpointer forums on that sort of controversial thread about Wicked. And Proctor made a post in there. He said you banned him just because his signature said Nikon > Canon?

There is no way this can be true.

You don't have to reply if you don't want to, cause I know we probably shouldn't even be talking about a banned member, but reading that peaked my curiosity. "


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I did NOT ban him for this reason.
Proctor has been given many temporary bans in the past, and then to the astonishment of other Mods, he would return and either make an entirely inappropriate comment to other forum members in the open forums or he would start anti-Mod threads or even change his icons and signatures to make anti-Mod statements. Most recently I warned him about making uninformed and biased comments on the threads about Cameras... something he was regularly doing in the past. He continued to make snide remarks and then changed his signature iCon to one designed to offend those who didn't agree with him. After receiving MANY complaints from other forum members, it was decided to make Proctors ban permenent. One of Proctor's problems is that whilst making certain comments in the Forums, he would then make very different comments to (edit *other). eg: he would speak highly of Mods in the public forums but would make anti-Mod comments to (edit *other). This is unacceptable and an example of poor communication. It was also done to try to get himself elected as a mod. But since Moderator Status must be approved by other Mods beforehand, there's no way he could have become a mod whilst openly being hostile towards them.

As usual, he is claiming to have done no wrong. His biggest complaint in the Forums has been that he believes he should be a Moderator. But his bullying tactics and less than mature personality ensure that this can never happen. (large portion edited out) His behavior in the Forums turned quite nasty when he found that his request was not met and it served to prove that he would have been too much of a Bully to have made a good Mod. Already he is complaining to you and to others on the forum privately. He cannot accept that his opinions mean little here or elsewhere. Perhaps when he is older, his maturity will have more impact on his behavior.

As for Cameras, I seem to recall that he once wrote and asked for Advice on which camera to buy. I advised him on a Canon package but the salesman talked him into a Nikon. He hated his new camera and even referred to it as "A piece of sh*t". But later, he became Pro-Nikon and quoted outdated and biased reviews to support his biased and skewed opinions in an attempt to offend and aggrivate others on the forums here. Speciaifally, he would contradict anything I wrote when possible.

But I don't act for personal reasons... I never do when it comes to the Forums. But I do archive the stupid and rude or offensive things that he does which are then send to (edit *other) to serve as an example. Proctor's biggest mistake is that he sends VERY offensive and snide remarks to other forum members who in turn forward their complaints to me. When a complaint is genuinely warranted or when I get more than one complaint about Proctor, I respond with either a warning or a temporary ban. In the past I have actually supported him and even spoken to (edit *other) to allow his ban to be lifted or to explain his strange behavior. But I have no further patience for this stupidity any more. Proctor was WARNED about pressing the wrong buttons but he went and did so in a manner designed to specifically annoy Mods and specifically to annoy me. It did not annoy me but an example had to be made when others complained about his Nikon Vs Canon stance as per his signature. Complaints (if warranted) are sent to Admin. I think there's nothing he can say or do to defend himself anymore because (paragraph edited) and I am sick of warning him about his behavior. Hence the permement Ban. I've now had complaints about his comments to others under the "Anna" name. He'll be banned again soon enough and his ISP blocked if he continues to do so. He has nobody to blame but himself. And this is why he is no longer welcome in the Forum.
And here is Timelords real reason for a ban

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I temp-banned Timelord after expletives OR rascist comments in one of his threads upset a number of members who alerted me to it. But I note that I messaged the other mods and instructed them to lift the ban after a couple of days which i believe they did. I believe that a 3 day ban was fair and way lenient. I liked Timelord and his posts so I felt that an example should be made for others because proctor at the same time as this took place was complaining that the Mods were being too soft. imply
So there ya have it, this is a real Pm from Nero. I did not lie.
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Okay, F A B U L O U S !! Now - does it matter ?

Look none of that stuff has been brought here, or will be brought here, so it's a moot point. Nobody should really be rising to bait of others that are OBVIOUSLY just trying to start crap. It does not have ANYTHING to do with this forum ! I see no need to continue this further, folks - I mean, c'mon. SO WHAT ?!?!? OMG, I have been a mean or a bad person elsewhere, too I am sure. Let's bury the hatchet, and call it a day on this, okay ? Please ?

And yeah - that is me - I am not implicated in any of the before slander, or whatever - and I for one am sick of reading about it.

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Old 01-31-2007, 01:40 AM #38
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Well...kudos to you leuko. Although those parts are edited out, it keeps me in suspense.

Anyways, Nero is a liar. ;D

I offered to Steve to be a mod. I never got a reply about anything after that, I didn't care and didn't make any remarks about it. I never talked about anything on Lasercommunity

I had not been warned, at all...and if I was, it was public where I may have missed it. He did not email me, he did not private message me, nothing.

I never made Anti-Mod comments in the forum, and I'm guessing what was said after that was that I made anti-Mod comments elsewhere. He's lying once again! The only people I talk to frequently from Lasercommunity, outside of Lasercommunity are Detrimental, Pseudonomen137, and Black Sheep.

Detrimental said he has never talked to Nero
Pseudonomen137 said he also doesn't ever talk to Nero
Black Sheep hates that forum and hates Nero

If that is indeed what he said.

I never PM'd people about anything so he would be lying there also. It sounds like somebody just had a grudge and wanted me banned *COUGH*FuSion*COUGH*

I never changed my Avatar...It's always that guy with the thumbs up since I started at LaserCommunity. I was banned from the forums once because my signature had "mother*******" in the picture. None of the other moderators wouldn't have cared, but I can see why that was a fair banning. I did have the Signature Nikon > Canon: Image Designed By FuSion, but that was not anti-Mod material. FuSion was not a moderator at the time.

Also, at the time of being banned, I talked to many of the active old timers on that forum, and they had no problems with any of my recent posts, and saw no reason to ban me.

He's just Camera biased and wont let anybody on "his" forums if they like a brand other than the one he likes. He recommends moderators that own Canon cameras so they can try to beat out the Nikon people on that forum. FuSion just got added as a moderator because he owns a Canon 5D and that's what Nero wants to see.

Sorry Leuko, you may believe what Nero says, but you'll find out that forum is a bunch of fakes and liars. It's definitely not what it was a few months ago.

I don't really care anymore. I didn't want to leave on a bad note and I was trying to at least stay until the baby was due in a few weeks, but I guess not. If Nero wants to ban all the people on that forum who have been around long and helped the forum out for over a year, so be it...the forum will diminish quickly.
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Locking this thread - I don't think it is being productive at all, and has gone WAY beyond the original topic. If anyone has any questions regarding the bad blood between Proctor and Lueko, I suggest you PM them and discuss it that way - no need for dirty laundry to mess up the forum.
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