Post Your GUN (PICS)

Pretty much... In Calif even the republicans hate guns...

AJ_Dual said:

Benefit of the doubt given. There are lots of telescoping/folder style stocks that are fixed open permanently to give the look, in deference to those in ban states.

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well it says "Retractable Stock" in his description

I am just curious because I have always wanted to live in San Francisco but pretty much everything I own is on a "list"

My 460 S&W Magnum.

A shame for a thread like this to die.

This weapon is 7.65 mm (or .32cal for you Imperial metric system people), Yugoslavian made pistol. Manufacturer name Crvena Zastava, CZ for short (literal translation Red Flag) - pistol made in 1956 and works almost like new this very day. Owned by my grandfather before me, now my fathers.

You can see signs of significant wear on the slide and clip.
The clip holds 8 rounds - firing is very comfrotable due to very low recoil of the gun as the bullets are not as powerful as some other popular handguns out there.

As it was New Year welcoming, there was no need to *not* fire it so it required maintanance, so I took some pictures in the process.

Paint residue on the trigger assembly in the slide.







Okay now for something a bit more powerful, this is one mean bastard:


Perhaps you recognise the Russian TT-30 , although it's of Yugoslavian manufacturing - same design.
This gun packs 7.62 mm rounds powerful enough to pierce anything but ceramic-plated armour (according to my dad). It makes much louder thunder noise and much more recoil than the smaller gun.

Note here, that I have browsed the internet around and people have complained the lack of safety mechanism on this gun and have been installing aftermarket safety locks.
I am not sure if people do not consider existing safety safe enough, or just plainly don't know about it (since it's a bit ackward), but , this as the original position of the hammer:

When being pulled down to first click like so:

...locks both the trigger and the slide in place and to enable the gun again you must pull the hammer all the way down.

Weird, huh?

Anyhow, here are some more pictures:


TT in pieces:



Mark on the slide indicating the caliber

Most unfortunately,

The front sights are missing for a few years now, my dad had it fall off when he was shooting during some other New Year celebration.
We're about to visit a gunsmith to have it re-made and calibrated...

Anyhow,




To the right are all the empty shells fired during last night at New Year celebration.
Intense fun, tell you what



You can see the 7.65mm shell casing on the left for CZ (smaller one), and 7.62mm casing on the right, for TT.


The Arctic does not look so big and tuff now, does it

Is that a CZ75 from the first serie ? ..... if yes, it was a damn good gun (the "replica" , or second serie, don't worth 1/10 of the original one, both in resistance and precision )

HIMNL9 said:

Is that a CZ75 from the first serie ? ..... if yes, it was a damn good gun (the "replica" , or second serie, don't worth 1/10 of the original one, both in resistance and precision )

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You mean, CZ Mod.75?

For the hell of it, I can't remember what exactly did it say on the slide, but I have the box here which says Mod.67... then again the box may not be from this gun. Not sure.

It is the original CZ though, not replica, made in Kragujevac.

Should I ask my dad to take it out of the safe box to read the exact model from the slide?

Sorry, my bad ..... i thoughd it was a compact version of the original CZ75, but i remembered now that it was only in 9 para, they never made a first serie in 7.65 ..... my mistake (memory fade with the age )


EDIT: in fact, i realized that the one you have is a 70, not a 75 ..... the 75 was from 1977 .....

Ahh yes, you are correct, it says 70 on the slide.
Have you owned any CZ postols? Your opinions?

Not owned (here in Italy is difficult to get permissions), but i tried a pair of ones in a targeting line (a pair of my friends are in the police and armored guards, so they have permissions for different guns) ..... also, under army i was a helper for the armory sergeant in the free time, and was already partecipating at all the training days as helper, and he was a weapon maniac (i still have somewhere a photo he made me "for the fun", with bullets belts and grenades hooked and crossed everywhere, a bayonet in the mouth, 4 guns in the belt, 2 in the holsters, two Garands crossed on the back, a FAL in the left hand and an MG65 in the right hand, and a small "peace" flag on the hat ..... imagine the scene ), so we tried almost all his personal weapons, other the regular ones, during the shooting training.

Never tried the 70, but the 75 first model is extremely well built, and precise ..... the 75B (second type) instead is more heavy, less precise and built worse, also about the materials.

Find that picture. Nao.

About the precision, well you see this gun being as old as it is, there were times where it was not exactly maintained properly by my grandfather and the barrel has worn out and degraded, so it's accuracy did go down a little, but I have not yet seen any FTF in both of those guns.

My dad swears by Russian weapons and ammunition, TT being the most reliable gun he has ever seen, same as Avtomat Kalašnjikov model 1947 being the best assault rifle in the entire world, according to him. He fought in the Homeland war 1990-1995 and I trust his words.

He once told me a story where he witnessed UN troops (which arrived as peacekepers during the War) throwing away all the flashy M16 and alike weapons and picking up AKs when it actually came down to a firefight.
I didn't believe that reliability could be so questionable in a weapon until I saw a headcam video of an American soldier in Iraq, in 7 minute video his M4 failed twice.

Not meat to disrespect anybody, nor insult... if anybody can share some weapon reliability stories, I'd appreciate it

A typical M16 (M4) or AR15 require much more maintenance than AK rifles. Let them dry out, get too dirty, or put dirt in them and they can jam up. They are very precise rifles with free flaoted barrels, 8 tooth rotating bolt, gas operated, and very fast bullet with good ballistic properties. A typical AR style rifle will shoot a 25-50mm shot group at 100m. Plus, they have many acessories that can aid whatever the shooter pleases (many scopes, lasers, red-dots, spare iron sights, foregrips, lights, bipods...). And they are MUCH more comfortable to shoot than an AK with very little recoil.

AK47s are generally loosely built along with being piston driven, so they will almost never fail. About the only thing that will stop an AK is an ammunition or magaine failure. However, the trade is accuracy. The AK has a shorter sight radius (less accurate), notch and post (less precise), the barrel is not free-floated, the force of the piston will actually flex the rifle when firing, and the bullet has more ballistic drop. But they shoot... everytime... an any condition.

Now, just to give you an idea of what I prefer, I had a $1000+ AR15 that I sold to buy a $350 AK style rifle. I refinished the wood and cleaned it up real nice. Why? Inside of 150 meters, the AK can do everything that the M4/AR15 does - and the AK does it with a bigger bullet. If I need to shoot out past 1000m I'll use my LR30/AR10 - it's an AR rifle that shoots a large 7.62x51mm very accurately.

My old AR15 I sold:


My AK style rifle (WASR, Romanian built) and DPMS LR308C:

So basically, it's a tradeoff accuracy/reliability. I've read up on Wikipedia about AK, entire article, but it's not the same as hearing it first hadn from somebody with experience.

If you ask me, I'd do the same, if you need more range than 150-300 meters (where AKs become too inaccurate), you sure don't need an Assault rifle for that kind of distance.

You lucky Americans. You can legally own automatic weapons - here, anything remotely associated with auto-fire is forbidden to own and illegal. Even if it's remodified rifle to block fullauto fire, it's still illegal to own and you're getting quite some jailtime.

Even for semi-auto rifles there is some point on the law where it determines exactly the maximum "lenght" of the rifle, more than this being again illegal due to the power of the weapon - more than you'd need to defend your home.

Well with that *recent* war and eveything, can't say I blame anybody, but that still does not stop me from wanting to fire fully automatic weapon.

And it certanly does not stop people from owning those weapons, from the war and all. Just don't spread the word around and you're good
Too bad it makes them hard to acquire.

Guys, where and how would be best to buy some ammunition?
Would sellers ship that kind of thing internationally?

That's what I want to get is an AR10, with the flat top. I have had an AR15 with the handle and got rid of because I didn't like the elevated sights.

^^^ Here in the US you can only legally own semi-auto unless you get a permit for a full auto or a short barrel rifle (under 16").

Flattop is the way to go. My LR308 is actually a flattop, but the handle comes off so I can put a scope on it. I've been thinking about a 10X SS or Falcon Menace... but I have to save up for those scopes.

@ Eudaimonium
That's pretty much correct. over about 150m the AK is not as effective as an M16, especially if the M16 has a scope or sight. They actually make AR15 rifles that shoot the AK rounds (7.62x39 & 5.45x39) very accurately. But you have to be careful because shooting corrosive russian ammo in a percision gas rifle can destroy it if you fail to completely clean the rifle. That's why I switched to the AK so I could not have to clean and oil all the time and it's never jammed.

Also you are slightly mistaken. Full automatic firearms are HEAVILY regulated in the US. Since 1932, there have been registration and paperwork and it is a $200 special tax to even own one. And in May 1986, they banned the sale of ALL new full automatic firearms to civilians (Only police and military can still get new full automatic guns). Modifying any gun into full auto is a BIG offense (10 years in prison). Also, you cannot own a gun that has been modified to block full auto fire... if it EVER was a full auto then you need the permit to own it. My AK rifle was never full auto - the factory produced it as a semi automatic.

If a citizen wants to own a full automatic weapon in the US, it must be produced full auto before May 1986. Because there are so few 1986 or older full automatic guns, they are VERY expensive to own legally. They are collectibls now after all the new ones were banned. A real full auto AK-1947 that is legal to own will cost $15,000+ (not a mistake, that's more than fifteen thousand US dollars). Even cheap UZI or MAC will cost over $5000.

Oh wow. Didn't know that. All I knew is that there were a lot of jokes how owning an actual minigun (M134 and alikes) was legal in US.

So I guess it's no better there, huh? Well, that does not stop many gun enthusiasts to own fully automatic weapons, as far as I know.

A civilian can buy a legal minigun if it was made and registered BEFORE May 1985.
Because of this, legal ones are VERY rare. Last legal one I saw sold for over $150,000.
There are less than 30 (legal) civilian transferrable miniguns in the US. Extremely rare.

Of course, police and military and manufactures can have NEW cheap miniguns (and Hk and AK and M16...)

That video was AWESOME. +1 That M134 Minigun and Dual Ma-Dauce were sweet.
There are machine gun shoots where people who own these rare collectibles come out and shoot together.
"Knob Creek" is the biggest of the gatherings. Lot's of Youtube footage.