Welcome to Laser Pointer Forums - discuss green laser pointers, blue laser pointers, and all types of lasers

LPF Donation via Stripe | LPF Donation - Other Methods

Links below open in new window

ArcticMyst Security by Avery

Phones with OLED displays

ARG

ARG

0
Joined
Feb 27, 2011
Messages
6,772
Points
113
Got a question for all you people with smartphones that have OLED displays.
I'm looking at getting a Note 3 that has an OLED display, but what is holding me back is burn in. I like to keep my phones for a while and I would need this to last 4-5 years.

I've found so many varying answers and experiences across the internet, but none that really answer my questions. Some people say burn in happened only after a week of use and others say their screen is on 5 hours a day for two years without seeing any signs of burn in.

How long have you had your OLED phone?
How much do you use it?
What screen brightness do you have it set at?
Have you encountered burn in?
How noticeable is it?
Have you been able to correct it?


Thinking of getting a Nexus 5 with a LCD just to avoid this issue, but I've heard the Nexus 5 has poor battery life.
 
Last edited:





Speedy78

Speedy78

0
Joined
Dec 17, 2012
Messages
2,081
Points
63
Note 2/ about 1 year and a half to 2 years

Running custom kernel to lower battery drain and its almost dead at the end of the day because its playing pandora ans im playing game and or browsing lpf. So on a decwnt amount of time.

25% have to drag it up to 100 sometimes outside in the daylight

No burn in whatsoever.

NA

NA

I like the note. Saw the note 3 and it made me want tontrade this one in but its still running strong.
 
ARG

ARG

0
Joined
Feb 27, 2011
Messages
6,772
Points
113
Thanks for the reply :)

25% is about what I like screen brightness at. I think the reports of burn in mostly come from people who use it at max brightness all the time, but the brightness setting is never mentioned when people complain about burn in.
 
Speedy78

Speedy78

0
Joined
Dec 17, 2012
Messages
2,081
Points
63
If its dark I drop it down to the min brightness because even 25% is too bright then. It looks really vibrant and vivid and the colors just pop at 100% but thats not necesarry.
 
ped

ped

0
Joined
Nov 25, 2008
Messages
4,889
Points
113
You know what business I work in Alex ;) .

Its actually AMOLED , and due to how they work, you wont get screen burn, ever.

However..

Despite using toughened glass on the front, they are insanely sensitive to knocks, the actual AMOLED panel is about the thickness of 2 sheets of paper, and I've replaced more of them than I care to remember.
 
rhd

rhd

0
Joined
Dec 7, 2010
Messages
8,475
Points
0
ped said:
You know what business I work in Alex ;) .

Its actually AMOLED , and due to how they work, you wont get screen burn, ever.
Click to expand...

Unfortunately, that's just not true - sorry to disagree with you mate, but I've seen it first hand. Our family had two identical phones with AMOLED screens. I swapped mine out after 6 months because I don't keep phones very long. The other family member kept theirs for almost 2 years. The burn-in by the end of two years was so bad that the phone was almost unusable. In fact, we still have it, because the burn-in was so off-putting that it couldn't reasonably be sold used.
 
gismo

gismo

0
Joined
Jan 8, 2013
Messages
758
Points
43
As a former Note 2 owner (1 year) who recently has upgraded to Note 3 (3 months so far now) I haven't observed any burn display/screen issues whatsoever. For backlight control I use the following app:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vito.lux

Have the auto-brightness job done by this handy app, but sometimes I adjust it myself from within the notification area. Despite the relatively strong battery I must recharge the phone in 1-2 days which is not surprising though (depending how much I browse/play youtube videos/listen to music etc.).

Great phablet this Note 3 is:beer:
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: ARG
Livinloud

Livinloud

0
Joined
Feb 21, 2013
Messages
5,013
Points
0
S3, owned for 2 years. 1 year full brightness, 1 year 1/2 brightness, ZERO burn in. Use it daily for HOURS on end and have NOT ONCE changed the background. Burn in isnt an issue IMO with phones
 
  • Like
Reactions: ARG
rhd

rhd

0
Joined
Dec 7, 2010
Messages
8,475
Points
0
Livinloud said:
Burn in isnt an issue IMO with phones
Click to expand...

I'm not sure how you can say that, given that there is lots of material available about AMOLED burn in, lots of discussion about why it happens (degradation of the organic material that makes up the "O" in AMOLED), lots of phones for sale (at great discount) on the secondary market that advertise burn-in damage, and lots of photos on Google images of exactly what this burn-in looks like.

Granted, my story of burn-in occurring was anecdotal. However, an anecdotal story of burn-in occurring for one person provides a lot better support to the argument that it can occur, than an anecdotal story of burn-in not occurring in a certain circumstance provides for the argument that it never does.
 
Last edited:
jeffreythe00

jeffreythe00

0
Joined
Jan 13, 2010
Messages
2,516
Points
63
I've never had any burn-in with any of the AMOLED screen phones I've owned. First phone I've owned was the Google nexus one, had it 2 and a half years. Second one was Samsung galaxy s2 had it a year and lost it in the woods. Now I have an S4 and zero problems yet.

One note though, I do use my phone alot and want the battery to last. So generally I keep my phone on the lowest setting as much as I can rarely ever going above 25%.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ARG
Livinloud

Livinloud

0
Joined
Feb 21, 2013
Messages
5,013
Points
0
This is my second amoled phone. My dads S2......over 4 years old with zero burn in. Yeah I'd say burn in is a joke. What are you guys doing with your phone, no screen timeout, display on 24/7 and not changing it at all? Its like TVs. If you get burn in, your not using it correct

Bur. In must be a Canadian thing, never heard kf it with any of my friends phones
 
Last edited:
rhd

rhd

0
Joined
Dec 7, 2010
Messages
8,475
Points
0
Livinloud said:
This is my second amoled phone. My dads S2......over 4 years old with zero burn in. Yeah I'd say burn in is a joke. What are you guys doing with your phone, no screen timeout, display on 24/7 and not changing it at all? Its like TVs. If you get burn in, your not using it correct

Bur. In must be a Canadian thing, never heard kf it with any of my friends phones
Click to expand...

Ironically, it's actually heat that supposedly makes the organic compounds in AMOLED screens degrade faster.

For what it's worth, in my googling, it seems like almost everyone who reports horrible burn in, is on an S2. That was the phone that we ran into it on also.

Never noticed it on my S1 or S4.

That said, on pure screen quality, I have both the S4 (AMOLED) and the Nexus 5 (IPS) currently and the Nexus 5 is a much nicer display.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
 
ARG

ARG

0
Joined
Feb 27, 2011
Messages
6,772
Points
113
Huh. Not as many of you have encountered it as I would have expected. Guess this is good news for me :)

ped said:
Its actually AMOLED , and due to how they work, you wont get screen burn, ever.
Click to expand...

Really, you've never seen burn in/image persistance on an AMOLED screen doing the work you do? No blue sub pixels degrading faster than the red and green ones?


rhd said:
Unfortunately, that's just not true - sorry to disagree with you mate, but I've seen it first hand. Our family had two identical phones with AMOLED screens. I swapped mine out after 6 months because I don't keep phones very long. The other family member kept theirs for almost 2 years. The burn-in by the end of two years was so bad that the phone was almost unusable. In fact, we still have it, because the burn-in was so off-putting that it couldn't reasonably be sold used.
Click to expand...

Any details on how often it was used?
 
rhd

rhd

0
Joined
Dec 7, 2010
Messages
8,475
Points
0
ARG said:
Any details on how often it was used?
Click to expand...

Ok average, probably 3 hours of pure text reading, plus pretty consistent use throughout the day on top of that, daily, for a little under 2 years.
 
ped

ped

0
Joined
Nov 25, 2008
Messages
4,889
Points
113
rhd said:
Unfortunately, that's just not true - sorry to disagree with you mate, but I've seen it first hand. Our family had two identical phones with AMOLED screens. I swapped mine out after 6 months because I don't keep phones very long. The other family member kept theirs for almost 2 years. The burn-in by the end of two years was so bad that the phone was almost unusable. In fact, we still have it, because the burn-in was so off-putting that it couldn't reasonably be sold used.
Click to expand...

I'm afraid I must disagree.

What you had was more than likely a defect from manufacture, or a fault of some kind. Iv'e worked on literally hundreds, maybe upward of a 1000 of OLED AMOLED phones & displays and NEVER seen a defect that could be described as "screen burn" or some other fault that HASN'T been user or manufacturer caused.

Ped
 
rhd

rhd

0
Joined
Dec 7, 2010
Messages
8,475
Points
0
It's well documented. The organic compounds in OLED / AMOLED screens degrade.

Regardless, whether it's a "defect" inherent in OLED / AMOLED manufacturing, or genuine screen burn in a technical sense, it's a problem none the less.

Just take a look on XDA or other forums. Lots of people report this problem. Lots of people don't as well. It happens.

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
 
You must log in or register to reply here.




Top