North Korea threat getting serious! :eek:

For the last week and a half North Korea has been outwardly vocal about it's treatment by the International Community.
It doesn't want sanctions to be placed on it and has now threatened to pull out of the non-aggression pact.
Many Koreans are taking this threat seriously. I remember the attacks back in 2010 on S.Korea. Not something I want to re-live again.


BBC News - China warns against Korea escalation

China has appealed for calm on the Korean peninsula, hours after North Korea said it had scrapped all peace pacts with the South and threatened pre-emptive nuclear strikes.
China, the North's only major ally, said all sides should continue to talk and avoid "further escalation".
Pyongyang has reacted angrily to another round of sanctions imposed by the UN over its recent nuclear test.
The sanctions restrict luxury goods imports and banking activities.
Beijing provides fuel, food and diplomatic cover to Pyongyang.
It has repeatedly voted in favour of UN sanctions imposed over the nuclear programme, but enforcement of the measures in China is patchy.
Hua Chunying of China's foreign ministry told a news conference on Friday: "China and North Korea have normal country relations. At the same time, we also oppose North Korea's conducting of nuclear tests.
China calls on the relevant parties to be calm and exercise restraint and avoid taking any further action that would cause any further escalations."
Chinese and US officials drafted the UN resolution passed on Thursday.
It contains similar measures to earlier resolutions, but the US said it had significantly strengthened the enforcement mechanisms.
In response, the North Korean regime published a message on the official KCNA news agency saying it had cancelled all non-aggression pacts with the South.
The two Koreas have signed a range of agreements over the years, including a 1991 pact on resolving disputes and avoiding military clashes.
However, analysts say the deals have had little practical effect.

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Yea man... you might want to stock up on some things do what you can to protect yourself and family for at least a 4 to 6 month run. Praying for you over there.

jander's avatar seems appropriate for this thread

Maybe it's completely inappropriate here, but...



Trevor

Fiddy said:

jander's avatar seems appropriate for this thread

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F*ck I hope not.

or this

aging rockets all go off at once. :undecided:

Trevor said:

Maybe it's completely inappropriate here, but...

Trevor

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Smack on the money, I'd say.
:thanks: Seriously, getting a bit worried.

The humor takes the edge off.

Can we keep the GIF's & videos to a minimum? .

There are other sub sections for that.

Seoul_lasers said:

Smack on the money, I'd say.
:thanks: Seriously, getting a bit worried.

The humor takes the edge off.

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I seriously hope that you have some place safe in another country for you and your family to go for a good little while. It's not going to be safe for you there, and nothing that the UN has planned is going to prevent it. My intel sources say prognosis is not good for S. Korea.

N. Korea ramps up tension; Park vows stern retaliation-The Korea Herald

N. Korea ramps up tension; Park vows stern retaliation

Pyongyang threatens to rescind nonaggression pacts, sever military hotline with Seoul
Published : 2013-03-08 18:02
Updated : 2013-03-08 22:44

North Korea ratcheted up tension Friday declaring it would end nonaggression pacts and an emergency hotline with the South.

In a fury over new U.N. sanctions and South Korea-U.S. joint military drills,
Pyongyang also threatened that its nuclear-tipped, long-range missiles are on standby.

In response, President Park Geun-hye used her first speech to military cadets to reaffirm
Seoul’s resolve to deal sternly with any provocations.




President Park Geun-hye salutes during at a joint commissioning ceremony for graduating cadets of the Army, the Air Force, the Navy and the Marine Corps at the Gyeryongdae military headquarters. (Yonhap News)

The totalitarian regime has recently escalated its rhetoric including warnings of nullifying a 1953 armistice and launching a preemptive nuclear strike against aggressors.

“Soldiers are ready for a battle and only awaiting an order, while various missiles including an intercontinental ballistic missile are on standby preset for targets, equipped with lightened, miniaturized and varied nuclear warheads,” Col. Gen. Kang Pyo-yong, deputy chief of the Ministry of People’s Armed Forces, was quoted as saying by the Rodong Sinmun, a propaganda organ of the North’s Workers Party.

In his speech to a mass rally in Pyongyang, Kang said the missiles will turn Washington and its allies into a “sea of fire.”

Pyongyang slammed South Korea and the U.S. for threatening peace on the peninsula with the 10-day Key Resolve drill starting Monday and the two-month Foal Eagle training underway since the beginning of the month.

The Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of Korea also issued a statement declaring “full nullification of inter-Korean nonaggression treaties as of March 11 when the ceasefire accord becomes null.”

The two Koreas clinched the so-called Basic Agreement in 1991 to promote reconciliation, nonaggression and peaceful resolution of conflicts. The North has in the past threatened to rescind the watershed treaty when cross-border tension was heightened.

On Thursday, the U.N. Security Council approved its fourth set of sanctions against Pyongyang in punishment for its Feb. 12 test of fission devices, adding three individuals, one business and one organization to its blacklist for asset freezes and travel bans.

The newest measures also include tighter cargo inspection on airplanes and ships, and bans on lavish items such as pricey jewelry, yachts, luxury and race cars.

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un visited an artillery unit involved in the 2010 shelling of Yeonpyeong Island near the border, according to the state media.

During the visit, he reportedly called on troops to prepare for an “all-out war” in case of provocation.

Seoul vowed to hit back and said any atomic attack will only result in the regime’s collapse.

“If North Korea attacks South Korea with a nuclear weapon, the Kim Jong-un regime will dissipate from the earth,” Defense Ministry spokesman Kim Min-seok told a press briefing.

“Although atomic bombs were used twice in the past to end World War II, nuclear attacks on a free, democratic and happy society like South Korea will not be forgiven by mankind.”

North Korea’s 1.02 million-strong military has been conducting “particularly intense” drills by mobilizing submarines, fighter jets and Special Forces, Kim added.

Park urged Pyongyang to stop raising tension in her speech at a joint commissioning ceremony for graduating military cadets at the Gyeryongdae military headquarters.

“Our current security situation is extremely grave. North Korea pushed ahead with a nuclear test and long-range missile development and is threatening to annul the Armistice Agreement,” the president said.

“I will deal strongly with North Korea’s provocations. But if North Korea takes a path of change I will actively undertake the Korean Peninsula Trust Process to build a foundation for the South and North to live peacefully and pave the way for national unification,” she said, referring to her signature policy aimed at building trust for inter-Korean reconciliation.

Earlier in the day, Cheong Wa Dae also held a meeting of senior secretaries to discuss the situation and countermeasures.

Senior foreign affairs and security secretary Ju Chul-ki presided over the session with vice minister-level officials of the defense, foreign and unification ministries and the National Intelligence Service, presidential spokesman Yoon Chang-jung told reporters.

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“If North Korea attacks South Korea with a nuclear weapon, the Kim Jong-un regime will dissipate from the earth,” Defense Ministry spokesman Kim Min-seok told a press briefing.

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I love this. American politicians can't say things like that.

I have a feeling that if the North fires anything at all, it will be dealt with swiftly and without hesitation.

Meatball said:

I love this. American politicians can't say things like that.

I have a feeling that if the North fires anything at all, it will be dealt with swiftly and without hesitation.

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Correct. During the 1st hour of the bombardment of Yongpyeongdo, South Korea retaliated with S-S rockets and targeted a NK airbase as well as the Artillery dugouts along the DMZ.
--I've said before that there was a near dogfight 30 minutes after SK returned fire that day. 3 NK MIGs crossed into SK airspace ~100km or so N.E. off the Incheon Intl. Airport.
They were immediate responded to by SK Airforce and ran back across the boarder.
Had the 3 MIGs been shot down, Korean war 2 would have ensued for certain.

On a razors edge here..literally

Seoul_lasers said:

North Korea ratcheted up tension Friday declaring it would end nonaggression pacts and an emergency hotline with the South.

In a fury over new U.N. sanctions and South Korea-U.S. joint military drills,
Pyongyang also threatened that its nuclear-tipped, long-range missiles are on standby.

In response, President Park Geun-hye used her first speech to military cadets to reaffirm
Seoul’s resolve to deal sternly with any provocations...

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She's playing right into what they want. They had already decided to target a site in S. Korea as their first real nuclear target. The only thing holding them back thus far had been determining WHICH target to hit first. I fear that target may very well be Seoul if postering forces their hand. This is very serious because they do mean business this time. It's not just idle threats like those in the past. Please, prepare to get away from there ASAP!

Bob

Meatball said:

I love this. American politicians can't say things like that.

I have a feeling that if the North fires anything at all, it will be dealt with swiftly and without hesitation.

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I have no doubt that there would be a large scale response planned. What concerns me, besides the obvious massive loss of life of a nuclear event, is how massive the disruption to command and control that takes place. Nuclear EMP will damage a large portion of critical infrastructure that can dusrupt or delay any planned response. Most people just don't realize how vulnerable modern infrastructure is to EMP.

Allies are on alert, but that won't stop a first strike from occuring.

North Korea just officially severed the emergency line for DMZ today.

After threats from North, Key Resolve starts today

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北 "돌격 명령대기"… 우리군 직접 타격할 수도

Mar 11,2013

After days of increasingly bellicose threats from North Korea, a large joint military exercise between Seoul and Washington will start today.

The South Korea-U.S. annual war games, called Key Resolve, will continue through March 21. Roughly 10,000 South Korean troops and 3,500 U.S. soldiers will take part in the exercises, along with some high-end U.S. aircraft and submarines.

The drill practices the swift reinforcement of U.S. troops to the peninsula in case of an emergency like an outbreak of war with the North.

This year the drill will be led by South Korea’s Joint Chiefs of Staff in preparation for the transfer of U.S. operational control to South Korea, scheduled in 2015. Previous Key Resolve exercises were led by the Korea -U.S. Combined Forces Command.

The exercises are expected to utilize cutting-edge weapons and systems. The USS George Washington, an American nuclear-powered supercarrier, will join. It’s possible the drills will involve F-22s, the most advanced stealth fighter in the United States.

South Korea and the U.S. have already begun practicing the deployment of U.S. troops in the Foal Eagle exercise that started on March 1 and will run through April 30.

The exercises have angered North Korea and elicited a series of military and diplomatic threats. Kim Yong-chol, a North Korean four-star general, said Tuesday in a televised announcement that the regime “will entirely nullify the effectiveness of the Korean Armistice Agreement, starting from March 11,” the start of the Key Resolve exercises. Pyongyang also threatened to make nuclear attacks on Seoul and the U.S., cut off a hotline in the truce village of Panmunjom and abandon the “nonaggression agreement” between the two Koreas.

North Korea’s Foreign Ministry issued a statement Saturday reiterating its protest of stiffened sanctions by the United Nations Security Council that were passed last week in response to the regime’s third nuclear test.

“From now on, the world will clearly see how our status as a nuclear-armed and satellite-launching nation will become permanent,” the statement read.

A South Korean military official told the JoongAng Sunday that the North’s military appears to have readied 900 artillery guns for use.

Over the weekend, South Korean President Park Geun-hye was kept up to date on the situation by her yet to be appointed nominees to various ministerial positions. She was reported to be in touch with them around the clock.

Park will formally appoint 13 of her 17 cabinet members today, which will enable her to convene her first cabinet meeting.

“If there are more signals detected of provocations by Pyongyang, the National Security Council will definitely be convened, attended by concerned ministers,” a Blue House official told the JoongAng Ilbo. “The president will be able to lead the council in the underground bunker of the Blue House.”

The Presidential Security Service has beefed up security against terrorist attacks on the Blue House “by mobilizing both military and police forces,” an official from the service told the JoongAng Ilbo.

Despite escalating tensions on the Korean Peninsula, the Kaesong Industrial Complex operated normally on Saturday, according to the Ministry of Unification. According to the ministry, a total of 261 South Korean workers entered the Kaesong complex Saturday morning, and 409 returned to the South later that day.

Despite the tense situation, North Korean leader Kim Jong-un visited an indoor basketball court in Pyongyang, the ruling Workers’ Party’s Rodong Sinmun reported, although the exact date of the visit wasn’t specified. Just two days after the newspaper reported his visit to a front-line military unit off the west coast, it printed a photo of Kim at the basketball stadium in the Sports Village on Chongchun(youth) Street, Pyongyang.

Standing with high-ranking officials including his uncle Jang Song-thaek, he ordered officials to renovate the complex, the newspaper said. The newspaper printed another photo of Kim on the same day as he visited a team of archers. The date of that visit was also not specified.

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Bob_Boyce said:

I have no doubt that there would be a large scale response planned. What concerns me, besides the obvious massive loss of life of a nuclear event, is how massive the disruption to command and control that takes place. Nuclear EMP will damage a large portion of critical infrastructure that can dusrupt or delay any planned response. Most people just don't realize how vulnerable modern infrastructure is to EMP.

Allies are on alert, but that won't stop a first strike from occuring.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2013/03/11/world/asia/south-korea-military-exercises/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

got a bunker bro?

Fiddy said:

got a bunker bro?

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Well, all our subway systems have built in bomb shelters. We'll be fine here.
:tinfoil:

That is unless the North decides to use a tactical Nuclear device. Then...
well We'll wait until the Radioiodine and Cs137 to clear the air.