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Default MK's Sugar Rockets - The Next Generation!

Hello forum!
After a lot of time spent to improve and optimize my project, finally I'm back!
Many important changes were made to my rockets .. follow me and I will explain You everything

First of all, I replaced the "old" spiraled cardtube with a new thicker, longer, stronger and paralled wound one.
This cardtube can sustain a greater pressure inside, so I can boost it a lot:



Here is the nozzle-maker that I have created with the help of a lathe:



The cardboard tube and the cap:



Making a sort of threads in the ID of the tube (both sides). In that way the glue will cling much better between the carboard tube and the cap and allow also the quick cement to cling better along the ID walls:



Inserting the cardboard tube in the nozzle-maker platform:



40 grams of quick cement:



Dissolved cement in few water and poured it inside the tube with the help of a funnel:



Packing the quick cement with a perfect-fit PVC bar:



After 5 minutes the quick cement is enough hardened to remove the nozzle-maker. On the left the cement after 5 minutes, on the right after 24 hours:



This is how the hardened cement appears inside:



64.5% potassium nitrate, 34,5% sugar and 1% red iron oxyde. Every powder
was fine pulverized with the help of a ball mill. Since I will use a small amount of water
to minimize the cooking time, this help to dissolve the powders very quickly, especially when
the temperature raise:



Dissolving the components in distilled water:



Cooking the mixture at about 150 °C on a thick cast iron pan over an electric plate.
This can prevent dangerous hot spots that can ignite the compound:



The compound is melted and perfectly dried. Maximum care is needed at this point because the mixture is now extremely flammable.
It is also important that the mixture is not generating smoke with the classic smell of caramelized sugar. If this is happening, it means that the temperature is near 180 °C, that is the point where the sugar decomposes, and this is not so good, because the powder loses part of its performance and can also auto-ignite:



Dripping the compound inside the cardboard tube and packing it:



The packed and cold compound:



Pressing ang gluing the cap with strong epossidic glue:



Making the head flat with expanded foam:



Making the head rounded with strong epossidic glue:



Making an hole in the compound. This is a very delicate step. I have tried a lot of variables before to found the correct diameter and depth of the hole. For this specific project, the hole done in the compound (that must be obiouvsly the same of the rocket nozzle) has a 7mm diameter and it must reach about 1/3 of the compound depth. Other values such as smaller hole diameter or greater hole depth will trasform the rocket in a firecracker:



The rocket dressed in great gala:



Wrapping a straw with some turns of aluminum foils. Inside the straw will be inserted the fuse. The straw allow to ignite the compound from the deep and the aluminum avoid a straw perforation that could prematurely ignite the compound:



The fuse was bent so it can be inserted firmly and will not slip out during its combustion:



Nozzle glued, straw with fuse inserted. I used a 3mm, 4 cores high quality fuse. Barrell firmly glued over a Samba stick. A little piece of cotton will help to keep everything in place:



Finally the rocket is finished and ready to be launched:



Some different evening dresses:



Another creation of mine ... the rocket launcher base:





... and now, the launch:



For an heavy 250 grams sugar rocket the departure is very impressive: ZZIP instead WOOOSSSHHHH ...
I think I reached the max limit of the internal pressure. A little bit more pressure and the rocket will be turned in a loud firecracker!

So, another great project was successfully completed.
But the thing do not stop here.
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Awesome. Thanks for sharing it with a lot of pics. Very cool project. And the launch - how long it was flying powered! Do you know the height you might reach? What about some stabilizers? Different designs? Maybe even some little servos for RC?

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Default Re: MK's Sugar Rockets - The Next Generation!

LOL
No my goal is to create a reliable sugar rocket to launch in quote some nice pyro effects suitable for the end of the year!
I'm working in this direction but it is better to procede cautious and step-by-step: every little mistake could be fatal when handling such compounds!
I think the rocket reached over 200 meters ...
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Cool... Now I got the direction you go. Of course, the process is needed to follow step by step and with extra safety. I can imagine there are many considerations, knowledge, tests and developement behind and also solutions reducing dangers. Great job, I'm looking forward to see more.

And 200 meters - awesome...

Once you have some pyro effects you might consider night drone aerial video to show the height as well.
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Ehmmm ... it was my intention to lock a drone at a certain altitude with GPS control, ignite a rocket far away with a collimated laser beam and record the launch with a drone.
It is doable and it is among my next projects.
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Minamoto, congratulations on another successful rocket program, now up to 200 meters in altitude with more to come!
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That was impressive. Very nice launch and it continued to accelerate much longer than I expected. + rep.
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Great job once again! I think youll have to start designing a small shuttle next, youll be in space soon!
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x BowtieGuy:

Strange thing: I just finished a massive 450gr rocket and the guy also launched a rocket in the middle of the ocean.
I need to change my nickname, I switch to Min Jong-un

Next step I will create a fountain (that is, more ore less, an upset rocket), so I want to see the Korean badass switch to a fountain also
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I think many of Kim's rockets unintentionally turn into "fountains" soon after launch also!

Min, the 'Supreme Sugar Rocket launcher', I like that.


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Hey, this was my first attempt to build a pyro fountain, and was a success !!

As support platform I used a nice orgonic device that I have built some years ago:





The fountain build method is very similar to the one used for my rockets (Titanium apart).
The traditional 4 cores 3mm fuse was replaced with a nice crackling red fuse.
Also the great gala dress is very similar:







It is a heavy fountain!



And here is the video!
Sorry for the bad shooting: my american friend was totally drunk! (as You can hear LOOOL).



This is the nozzle look after the performance.
Not so bad, considering the high temperature/pressure generated!



I'm very proud for the result of my first attempt!


And as a bonus, an 80 grams smoke bomb:



It was made with chinese honey instead sucrose but .. this is another story !!

See ya soon dear forum followers!
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That was great! I found the conversation as entertaining as the fountain. Too bad you didn't set off the smoke bomb.
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Nice work , I did a few BP rockets and golden glitter fountains in 1" x 10" tubes a few years back
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That video was funny.
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