Microsoft Windows 7 Beta?

I'm using Vista and loving it. In all honesty, Vista has :

-Never, never, never crashed on me
-Been super-fast ( Defragment every week BTW)
-Been consistently reliable and compatible
-Easy to navigate
- useless widgets. Never used them. Probably never will.

I just don't see what there is to complain about. Oh, and it looks pretty.

Geneticz said:

I'm using Vista and loving it. In all honesty, Vista has :

-Never, never, never crashed on me
-Been super-fast ( Defragment every week BTW)
-Been consistently reliable and compatible
-Easy to navigate
- useless widgets. Never used them. Probably never will.

I just don't see what there is to complain about. Oh, and it looks pretty.

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EXACTLY the same happened in my head when I switched to Vista...it's amazing how well it runs (even without SP1), I don't really know why everybody bashed it...including myself.....good thing I learned I was wrong

I've had major issues with vista, from buggy crashyness to program incompatibility to the way things are laid out in an illogical and unconfigurable way.. Windows 7 for the most part seems to have solved all the things I hated about vista, and the beta so far has been remarkably stable.

There's a few issues with my laptop coming out of sleep mode, sometimes my wifi won't turn back on, sometimes my touchpad gets disabled, and I've run into a few unfinished things while poking around.. Other than that I'm really happy with Win7 in general.

pseudolobster said:

[highlight]I've had major issues with vista, from buggy crashyness to program incompatibility to the way things are laid out in an illogical and unconfigurable way[/highlight].. Windows 7 for the most part seems to have solved all the things I hated about vista, and the beta so far has been remarkably stable.

There's a few issues with my laptop coming out of sleep mode, sometimes my wifi won't turn back on, sometimes my touchpad gets disabled, and I've run into a few unfinished things while poking around.. Other than that I'm really happy with Win7 in general.

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I keep hearing this. I don't know how you people fail so hard :-/

pseudolobster said:

I've had major issues with vista, from buggy crashyness to program incompatibility to the way things are laid out in an illogical and unconfigurable way.. Windows 7 for the most part seems to have solved all the things I hated about vista, and the beta so far has been remarkably stable.

There's a few issues with my laptop coming out of sleep mode, sometimes my wifi won't turn back on, sometimes my touchpad gets disabled, and I've run into a few unfinished things while poking around.. Other than that I'm really happy with Win7 in general.

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So far, Vista has actually solved ALL the problems I had with XP, and I really mean ALL of them. I've yet to test the last one and I'm done.

You know, I always called my PC "The Maclinux" because it's the most incompatible thing I've ever built, it's amazing how every new little thing (hardware) I install has problems or makes something else work wrongly.

Geneticz said:

-Been super-fast ( Defragment every week BTW)

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Hah! XFS never needs defragmenting.

Oh, and it looks pretty.

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You've never seen Compiz[-Fusion], have you.

I have used Vista off and on... basically whenever I need to use Windows and can't use it in a VM. It's okay, so long as you don't install too many programs (still susceptible to winrot)...

jwc said:

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-Been super-fast ( Defragment every week BTW)

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Hah!  XFS never needs defragmenting.

Oh, and it looks pretty.

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You've never seen Compiz[-Fusion], have you.  

I have used Vista off and on... basically whenever I need to use Windows and can't use it in a VM.  It's okay, so long as you don't install too many programs (still susceptible to winrot)...[/quote]

Just looked up Compiz-Fusion, looks very nice. But I find Vista is pretty too.

I dont need to defrag every week, still runs fast as heck. But I do it just because I have a lot of BS on my computer- Games, Music, Docs, software, more software,....And defragging never hurt anyone.

When I first got my laptop was really messed up though. HP messed up big time on the pavilion series, has a big problem with the Wifi card, needed to get it replaced ( under warranty...phew!) but that was the laptops fault, definitely not Vista, as my friend with pretty much same laptop but XP got the same problems.... He decided to get a new one anyways though.

Sawt al Hurriyah said:

Okay well today I had my first major problem with Windows 7. It got blue screen of death when I was updating the driver for my network card. Typing this on my iPhone until I can see if my comp will start up again.

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Well, remember it's just a BETA release

I hope microsft gets it at least half right this time (there's NO way they're gonna get it fully right, ever ).

HumanSymphony said:

[quote author=pseudolobster link=1232030958/16#21 date=1234848734][highlight]I've had major issues with vista, from buggy crashyness to program incompatibility to the way things are laid out in an illogical and unconfigurable way[/highlight].. Windows 7 for the most part seems to have solved all the things I hated about vista, and the beta so far has been remarkably stable.

There's a few issues with my laptop coming out of sleep mode, sometimes my wifi won't turn back on, sometimes my touchpad gets disabled, and I've run into a few unfinished things while poking around.. Other than that I'm really happy with Win7 in general.

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I keep hearing this. I don't know how you people fail so hard :-/[/quote]

I somehow doubt this is a shortcoming of mine... I repair computers for a living.
I've been using windows since 3.0 was new, and before that I was raised on dos 4.0, before there was even an EDIT command... I'm quite used to new releases of windows being weird and glitchy, and a certain amount of that is unavoidable, though vista really takes the cake in terms of breaking everything at once...
Simply the worst windows release since ME. When you double click on my computer and it BSOD's, you reboot and it acts like you've never logged in and rebuilds you a new profile, then you try to install a program designed for XP two years ago and it gives you an incompatibility notice, then it starts defragging your harddrive without asking, then when you actually want to do something FIVE uac messages pop up, "are you sure you want to click that?", "no, are you really sure?" "I'm sure that text file could be a virus are you REALLY sure?" "This text file requires administrative access" etc etc... Yeah, if you ask me, anyone who has no problems with vista likely isn't someone who uses their computer much or is completely unobservant. Every letter you type into the start menu opens a new thread on the CPU, just ridiculous... The shutdown button is placed in a really stupid place and is unconfigurable. The defrag utility gives absolutely no feedback aside from "This could take between a couple minutes and a couple hours".. You cannot disable the disk indexing service, no matter what you are doing it will be grinding away at your harddrive constantly, every hour of every day, that horrible grinding harddrive noise.. Everything is laid out in an illogical way that is completely counterintuitive, as though they'd developed the whole thing without any usability testing...

Anyways, I don't feel like ranting much longer, I'll just say that for the most part, windows 7 addresses all the unfinished parts of vista.. the shutdown button is more logically placed, things are configurable, the disk indexing service is actually disableable, the last remaining dialog boxes that had gone unchanged since windows 3.0 have finally been replaced with modern versions, all the little stupid apps like mspaint that had gone unchange have finally been given a makeover and some real functionality, apps actually tell you what they're doing instead of a vague little animation that actually doesn't tell you anything.. Annoying things that have plagued users for years are finally being addressed, like changing the input language for the login screen etc... and, most notably, beta 7000 is much, much more stable than vista SP1, while being as fast or faster than XP.

Yeah, if you ask me, anyone who has no problems with vista likely isn't someone who uses their computer much or is completely unobservant. Every letter you type into the start menu opens a new thread on the CPU, just ridiculous... The shutdown button is placed in a really stupid place and is unconfigurable. The defrag utility gives absolutely no feedback aside from "This could take between a couple minutes and a couple hours".. You cannot disable the disk indexing service, no matter what you are doing it will be grinding away at your harddrive constantly, every hour of every day, that horrible grinding harddrive noise..

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Not true, I use my pc all day to do all kinds of things.

Gaming is the least I'm doing right now. I work with PS4, for example. It works fast as Sonic.

The shutdown is stupid, but it IS configurable (use TuneUp utilities). I've tweaked vista a lot, disabled almost every service and obsolete stuff for my personal use and it really, really runs fast. I've used computers since I was 6 years old and I'm the most -detailed? (can't find the right word)- person I know , so I do look into these things and it really isn't as bad as you say.

Niko said:

Yeah, if you ask me, anyone who has no problems with vista likely isn't someone who uses their computer much or is completely unobservant. Every letter you type into the start menu opens a new thread on the CPU, just ridiculous... The shutdown button is placed in a really stupid place and is unconfigurable. The defrag utility gives absolutely no feedback aside from "This could take between a couple minutes and a couple hours".. You cannot disable the disk indexing service, no matter what you are doing it will be grinding away at your harddrive constantly, every hour of every day, that horrible grinding harddrive noise..

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Not true, I use my pc all day to do all kinds of things.

Gaming is the least I'm doing right now. I work with PS4, for example. It works fast as Sonic.

The shutdown is stupid, but it IS configurable (use TuneUp utilities). I've tweaked vista a lot, disabled almost every service and obsolete stuff for my personal use and it really, really runs fast. I've used computers since I was 6 years old and I'm the most -detailed? (can't find the right word)- person I know , so I do look into these things and it really isn't as bad as you say.

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This. Also, I'd rather the search use more threads it finds things instantly. Do you remember the search function in XP? SLOW. I never use the stock defrag. I never shutdown I don't get this silly HDD grinding. I "acquire" hundreds of programs and games and have not had one issue :-/ I use my pc over 12 hours a day, happily, and I do it with vista

HumanSymphony said:

I "acquire" hundreds of programs and games

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I fully support ya, mate

Niko said:

[quote author=HumanSymphony link=1232030958/16#30 date=1235183275]I "acquire" hundreds of programs and games

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I fully support ya, mate [/quote]
lol

Now see, half of my problem in upgrading to a new OS is learning curve. AS you get older you don't want to learn something all over again and the more important it is for your foundation (like an OS) to stay the same. I'm not afraid to learn new things but with SOOO many things changing in software as you upgrade from one version to the next, it gets tiresome. :-/

Kenom said:

Now see, half of my problem in upgrading to a new OS is learning curve.  AS you get older you don't want to learn something all over again and the more important it is for your foundation (like an OS) to stay the same.   I'm not afraid to learn new things but with SOOO many things changing in software as you upgrade from one version to the next, it gets tiresome. :-/

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I get you, but it's just the way technology moves... We gotta keep up or we're gonna stay behind

Although some items are in different locations and using Windows 7 may seem annoying at first, it's quickly becoming one of my favorite operating systems. The main reason I wanted to try Win7 was to finally have 64 bit running on my system (upgraded to 6gb of ram recently, 32 bit windows can only access 3gb of it) and the performance and stability has been great. Lots of new features and enhanced versions of older windows programs.