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Old 08-20-2009, 08:10 PM #721
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In reality, when you die, your life is judged as it was, and where you go next is truly just about how you have treated others, and how you have lived your life (sucessfully or unsucessfully).
If you have increased the amount of love in the universe, you suceeded and get to chose your life next time around. If you were full of hate and selfishly took from the universe during your life, you failed and don't get to chose your next life, you are forced into a life that will teach you lessons that you failed to learn the previous time around.

Trust me. If you have ever had the chance to escape this TSI (Time-Space Illusion) that we live in and read the Akashic Records, you would know that life is simply a learning experience and we have all done this (inhabit a physical body) thousands of times before, and it's no big deal.
What if the lesson I needed to learn was what it felt like to be cruel? What if my lesson was delivered by my being so bad that no one loved me? What if, by being this unloved and unlovable bastard, I learned that love was the answer, even though I didn't spread one smidgen of love around? Would I not have satisfied my reason for this life, learned the needed lesson, AND earned the right to choose my next life?

Oh yeah -- and who decides whether I learned or not?

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All organised religions are for simpletons, and those who can't think for themselves.
The only thing that truly matters in the end is the quantity of love in your life and if you were true to your heart,

I get the point but it is worded poorly. I don't think you mean that the Manson followers are going to heaven.... after all who had more love in their heart, and who followed their heart more than thos people?
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What if the lesson I needed to learn was what it felt like to be cruel? What if my lesson was delivered by my being so bad that no one loved me? What if, by being this unloved and unlovable bastard, I learned that love was the answer, even though I didn't spread one smidgen of love around? Would I not have satisfied my reason for this life, learned the needed lesson, AND earned the right to choose my next life?
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Oh yeah -- and who decides whether I learned or not?
You do, but it's less of a conscious decision or choice, and more of an energy pull that you can't avoid.
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I get the point but it is worded poorly. I don't think you mean that the Manson followers are going to heaven.... after all who had more love in their heart, and who followed their heart more than thos people?
Well. One definitely feels strangely emotional under the influence of LSD. But, even with a 1200microgram dosage of some pure liquid LSD, I guarantee I would still know that taking a life is wrong.
Those individuals (the Manson followers) were clearly weak-minded and easily manipulated.
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Hmmm Yeah tbh I don't and I don't know if other people do. It was 2 thousand years ago!

The reason I would think they wouldn't understand ice is because I know that region is insanely hot, like marines telling me about how in Iraq it's 120 degrees. So I just assumed in a freak cold wave I don't think people would be testing ice and seeing if it floats, if all of a sudden it got cold and a guy walked out on water (which was clear ice) I would assume they would be impressed.
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LSD doesnt turn people to murderers. The scientist who created LSD died last year, he was 91 years old. He regularly took LSD through out his life until he died.
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I have Atheist beliefs toward every religion I have ever heard of (maybe I'm a little pantheist)

I highly recommend "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins.

Quoted from the back of the book-
"Everyone should read it. Atheists will love Mr. Dawkins incisive logic and rapier wit, and theists will find few better tests of the robustness of their faith. Even agnostics, who claim to have no opinion on God, may be persuaded that their position is an untenable waffle."

My favorite quote is something like "everyone is atheist towards most Gods, Christians don't believe in Thor or Zeus, I just take atheism one God further than most."

FSM FTW!

I also HIGHLY recommend this intro psyche course at taught at Yale university (http://www.academicearth.org/subjects/psychology). I have watched the entire course and it gave me a whole new perspective on humans. The course goes into detail on the evolutionary advantages of morality, grouping, love/hate, ect, and how it may have came into play. It also shows very well how humans have a lot of psychological traits shared with animals that are ubiquitously considered exclusive to humans.
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Well. One definitely feels strangely emotional under the influence of LSD. But, even with a 1200microgram dosage of some pure liquid LSD, I guarantee I would still know that taking a life is wrong.
Those individuals (the Manson followers) were clearly weak-minded and easily manipulated.
Hehe, you have a very interesting outlook on life and beyond, I must agree. And you bring into discussion a controversial point, which I have a feeling might polarize people just as much as religion. After all, there is a recognized religion in the US that has as it's main practice the consumption of psychedelic cacti. I have to admit that the experience mentioned above does have a very profound spiritual effect... Although does it tell us something about the Universe, or about our own complicated selves?... that is the question

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Hehe, you have a very interesting outlook on life and beyond, I must agree. And you bring into discussion a controversial point, which I have a feeling might polarize people just as much as religion. After all, there is a recognized religion in the US that has as it's main practice the consumption of psychedelic cacti. I have to admit that the experience mentioned above does have a very profound spiritual effect... Although does it tell us something about the Universe, or about our own complicated selves?... that is the question

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Both.
The truth is, at the correct dosages, Psychedelic substances allow us to access portions of our consciousness that are connected to the universal truths...
But, then again. So does meditation.
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The white man gets on his knees and prays to god
The red man eats peyote and has a conversation with god.

Many indiginous peoples use some sort of psychoactive substance to acheive a spiritual union with some diety.

Many europeans used fasting and or self flagellation to achieve the same end. Both meditation and prolonged prayer alter the blood chemistry enough to produce a religious experience.

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Many indiginous peoples use some sort of psychoactive substance to acheive a spiritual union with some diety.

Many europeans used fasting and or self flagellation to achieve the same end. Both meditation and prolonged prayer alter the blood chemistry enough to produce a religious experience.

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But in the end it's all in their heads.
As is EVERYTHING

There is no reality for me. There is only my perception of it that exists.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
WTF. explain

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Nikokapo, I'm surprised your not a part of the Church of Maradona (Iglesio Maradona) . Look it up
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