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Old 10-01-2016, 01:19 AM #6962
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I do not view atheists to see no meaning etc. in life, I think many atheists believe in a greater good, regardless of agreeing with a concept of God or not.
I think most atheists believe in some form of ethics, although this is not a defining characteristic of an atheist.

By definition an atheist is someone who does not believes in the existence of god(s).

This does not mean they cannot believe in things like an afterlife per se, although a mechanism for transferring from this life to another seems rather unlikely to exist for most. Then again one could be both atheist and believe in re-incarnation, as long as no god mediates that process (it somehow occurs naturally). Technically people believing in spirits and such could also be atheists.

In any case, atheism is not like a religion where people share the same ideas about how the universe works, what happens after death, what predates birth, how the universe was created etc.

Many modern atheists do believe in science and what we learn from that, but that's not a requirement to qualify as an atheist.

There are still numerous peoples on earth that believe in things like the spirits of ancestors having some powers (though not omnipotence) and revere their elders to achieve some result (like a good hunt or harvest). This sort of animism is actually fairly common for people that have not been (forcibly) converted into some world regilion.

Such believes are not uncommon and are found all over the world. Native americans had such a belief system, but so do many peoples found in asia. These might not be the folks you had in mind when thinking of atheists, but they technically are.
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