Laser pointer discussion. Read/write reviews of laser pointers and laser pointer companies. Learn about all types of laser pointers and lasers





Welcome to Laser Pointer Forums! If you are looking for a laser pointer or want to compare different laser pointer companies, you may want to check out the LPF Laser Pointer Company Database. The link will open in a new window for your convenience.








Green Laser Pointers by Category Blue Laser Pointers by Category Red Laser Pointers by Category
Yellow Laser Pointers by Category Violet Laser Pointers by Category Orange Laser Pointers by Category
Top Laser Pointers by Power - 1 Watt+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 500mW+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 250mW+
Laser Pointer Database High Power Laser Pointers Laser Pointer Diodes
Laser Technology Laser Pointer Parts Lasers by Wavelength
Top 10 Laser Pointer Companies Laser Pointer Company Database Visible Beam Laser Pointers


One laser store meets all your needs

























Go Back   Laser Pointer Forums - Discuss Laser Pointers > Off-Topic > Other



LPF List of Laser Pointer Companies (link opens new window)



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-21-2016, 11:31 PM #6497
RB astro's Avatar
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Sydney, Australia (ɹǝpunuʍop)
Posts: 812
Rep Power: 24168
RB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond repute
RB astro RB astro is offline
Class 2M Laser
RB astro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Sydney, Australia (ɹǝpunuʍop)
Posts: 812
Rep Power: 24168
RB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond reputeRB astro has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: LPF's Religion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teej View Post
My brother died yesterday. He was a Born Again Christian.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Teej View Post
I do miss him.

Teej, my deepest sympathies to you and your family on the death of your brother.
I'm so sorry I missed you mentioning this in your previous post.
I haven't been reading all the posts fully in this thread lately, hard to keep up sometimes, my bad.
We too have had a loss in the family recently, sister in law, just before Christmas.

My thoughts are with you and your family at this time my friend.

Andrew


__________________
Andrew (RB)

─────────────────────────────────☀
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him
should not perish but have everlasting life.
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world,

but that the world through Him might be saved.
“He who believes in Him is not condemned;
but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his deeds should be exposed.
But he who does the truth comes to the light, that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”
(John 3:16-21)
─────────────────────────────────☀
If you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised Him from
the dead, you will be saved.
For it is with your heart that you believe unto righteousness
and it is with your mouth that you confess
your faith and
are saved.
(Romans 10:9-10)
─────────────────────────────────☀
RB astro is offline   Reply With Quote







LPF List of Laser Pointer Companies (link opens new window)







Old 01-22-2016, 12:00 PM #6498
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,296
Rep Power: 174
Teej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond repute
Teej Teej is offline
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,296
Rep Power: 174
Teej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond repute
Talking Re: LPF's Religion

Thank you all for your support, I do appreciate it.

My sincerest condolences on the loss of your sister in law. Just before christmas is a tough time for many peple, and many are lost around the holidays. The survivors then have the memory of the loss every christmas.

---------------------

Trend - The Universe is not the same as the cosmos.

Your thinking they are the exact same, reminding me of the female Big Bang Theory members discussing the difference between star wars and star trek, and declaring there's no difference, they're exactly the same.



Basically, any mention you see of "the universe" describing characteristics, such as if its expanding, size mass, speed, age, etc, is ONLY describing OUR Universe, also referred to as "The Observable Universe", etc.

The word "universe" is also sometimes used in journalism to describe what's outside of OUR universe...which can confuse things.


Anyway, the important part is that ALL of the things being said about the universe, that describe what its doing, size, etc....ONLY refers to OURS.

The Multiverse concepts that are discussed include some ideas, but, without more data, its much more speculative.

For example, they might mention a multiverse where its just like ours, except the bald people in this one, have hair in the other one, etc...

...which is not really what science believes on the whole...as an infinite number of chances for something to happen does NOT mean it WILL happen.

This is because, for example, there are also an infinite number of OTHER way for it to NOT happen, and so forth.


The idea that we see OUR universe, and can measure many characteristics of it, is very cool...but, it IS speculation that there are other universes going though the same birth/death cycle.

Logically, it makes sense that in an infinite amount of space and time, it would be arrogant to assume we have ALL the matter and energy in existence.

Some measurements point to the possibility of our universe potentially overlapping another, and, as we continue to develop more and better equipment and studies, we might be able to refine that data into a more solid picture of what ELSE is out there.

The distances are SO vast though, and we essentially have to wait for light, which in our scale is pretty damn fast....but, out there, can take billions of years, to reach us....so the process is therefore SLOW.



As for stuff on "Ancient Aliens", yeah, its BS.



As for "Greater than Yourself"...look up one night at the stars, the planets, etc. No offense, but EVERYTHING OUT THERE is greater than you or I.

We would not EXIST if not for those stars' ancestors. The element factories (stars) produced all of the heavier elements...and when they explode, those elements are spread far and wide.


---------------------------------

As for there being critters that god didn't make, but he made where they live, it makes one wonder where they lived while waiting for eternity to pass, etc.

If he did make them, it makes you wonder why...if they are bad, and, he later wanted them gone. What was his plan for their salvation? Why did it FAIL? If he MADE THEM EVIL, then, his PLAN was to create evil. That means no free will...or, he DIDN'T make them evil.

If he wanted to eradicate them, it makes you wonder why a being that was allegedly omnipotent, failed to?


Also, we KNOW there was no global flood in the fist place. There is overwhelming evidence it DIDN'T happen, and none that it did.

Soooo - IF the global flood was a failed attempt to kill off the gene pool of evil cross bred critters, perhaps it failed because it didn't happen?

----------------------


Also - Lets say no one could throw the first stone, to stone someone who the law, which JESUS SAID NOT TO CHANGE AN IOTA OF, because they were born with original sin...

...and he died, so we were all forgiven for the original sin...

...Was that because Jesus wanted us to be able to stone people according to the law he didn't want changed?



---------------------

As for Jesus, he is a composite character created by the Church for political gains. Historically, there were several characters back then that seem to have been plagiarized for this purpose, about 20 or so called Jesus, and many with different names.

The town the story has him born in, didn't exist until after his death...and, it was developed to MAKE a town there, on purpose, including shrines, etc. There are records of it NOT being there, and records of pilgrimages to holy sites, and no one went THERE until after it was built.

The disciples describe him as being in different places to do things, dying differently, etc.

If "the word of god", and the accounts are different is SOURCES, how do you know if even ONE source is trust worthy?

And so forth. Some apostles were found to be forgeries, early tests disagree with later edits, etc...as it was rewritten for political purposes over the centuries.

They even had to make up some popes to try to show a direct lineage from Jesus.

Its a mess if read through critically.


Last edited by Teej; 01-22-2016 at 12:09 PM.
Teej is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2016, 02:58 AM #6499
Trendkilla254's Avatar
Dark Lord of the Sith
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Troy, Texas
Posts: 873
Rep Power: 2963
Trendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Trendkilla254
Trendkilla254 Trendkilla254 is offline
Dark Lord of the Sith
Trendkilla254's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Troy, Texas
Posts: 873
Rep Power: 2963
Trendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Trendkilla254
Default Re: LPF's Religion

@ teej

cos·mos1
ˈkäzməs,ˈkäzˌmōs,ˈkäzˌmäs/Submit
noun
the universe seen as a well-ordered whole.
"he sat staring deep into the void, reminding himself of his place in the cosmos"
a system of thought.
plural noun: cosmoses
"the new gender-free intellectual cosmos"



But yeah I understand what your saying. I'm still right though by definition. Our "Observable universe", meaning "someone else" has another observable universe. We now have multiple... multi-verse. Now calling me Penny from BBT wasn't very nice.

Also - Lets say no one could throw the first stone, to stone someone who the law, which JESUS SAID NOT TO CHANGE AN IOTA OF, because they were born with original sin...

...and he died, so we were all forgiven for the original sin...

...Was that because Jesus wanted us to be able to stone people according to the law he didn't want changed?


LOL I'm down with stoning people. It's prolly cheaper than lethal injection and the electric chair and we can reuse the same stones.

The KJV is re-written for sure.

I will agree a lot of it doesn't make sense. I was very much agnostic during college and for a while afterward. I was not very happy. Trying to figure out a way to make it make sense is better than nothing at all if not entertaining. No harm no foul.

Look... you tell yourself the stories you want to tell yourself to make yourself feel better at night... And I'll tell myself my own.
__________________
New to Lasers? Click Here! THIS is the thread that answers all your "Where can I..." "Is this..." "How do I..."
Laser Safety
Eye Safety First:Uvex S1933X Skyper Safety Eyewear, Black Frame, SCT-Orange UV Extreme Anti-Fog Lens
"5mw"* 405nm Gearbest Pointer - Highly Unlikely to be 5mw
5mw 445nm Custom Pointer in a former Cordless Drill "Gun Style" Host - proof of concept before going into Nerf Gun
5mw ~515nm Bladed LightSaber Osram pl515 with "Growing Blade" Video attached (Host by Ehgemus)
5mw 532nm Pointer Broken? After months of no use it works now... can't explain.
5mw 685nm from 10fenny in Pen Host - Link - Broke Driver taking it apart
Graveyard
0mw 450nm Osram PL-450 RIP 11/25/2015
Two Laserlands 5mw 445nm Pens

Communication methods: Xbox Live\Skype\Steam\Gmail\Google Plus\Youtube - Trendkilla254

Last edited by Trendkilla254; 01-23-2016 at 03:04 AM. Reason: clarification
Trendkilla254 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-23-2016, 03:20 AM #6500
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,296
Rep Power: 174
Teej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond repute
Teej Teej is offline
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,296
Rep Power: 174
Teej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond repute
Talking Re: LPF's Religion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trendkilla254 View Post
@ teej

cos·mos1
ˈkäzməs,ˈkäzˌmōs,ˈkäzˌmäs/Submit
noun
the universe seen as a well-ordered whole.
"he sat staring deep into the void, reminding himself of his place in the cosmos"
a system of thought.
plural noun: cosmoses
"the new gender-free intellectual cosmos"



But yeah I understand what your saying. I'm still right though by definition. Our "Observable universe", meaning "someone else" has another observable universe. We now have multiple... multi-verse. Now calling me Penny from BBT wasn't very nice.

Also - Lets say no one could throw the first stone, to stone someone who the law, which JESUS SAID NOT TO CHANGE AN IOTA OF, because they were born with original sin...

...and he died, so we were all forgiven for the original sin...

...Was that because Jesus wanted us to be able to stone people according to the law he didn't want changed?


LOL I'm down with stoning people. It's prolly cheaper than lethal injection and the electric chair and we can reuse the same stones.

The KJV is re-written for sure.

I will agree a lot of it doesn't make sense. I was very much agnostic during college and for a while afterward. I was not very happy. Trying to figure out a way to make it make sense is better than nothing at all if not entertaining. No harm no foul.

Look... you tell yourself the stories you want to tell yourself to make yourself feel better at night... And I'll tell myself my own.



I hear you. We don't both get our own truth though.

We could both be wrong, or one of us could be right.


You support what you believe via an understanding of the world based primarily upon a bronze age level of knowledge, the bible, etc.

I support what I believe via an understanding of the world primarily based upon current science and history.

So, I know that no global flood happened, period. You know it did, and that it was an omnipotent supernatural beings attempt to kill other supernatural beings, that failed.

: )
Teej is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2016, 11:15 PM #6501
Trendkilla254's Avatar
Dark Lord of the Sith
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Troy, Texas
Posts: 873
Rep Power: 2963
Trendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Trendkilla254
Trendkilla254 Trendkilla254 is offline
Dark Lord of the Sith
Trendkilla254's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Troy, Texas
Posts: 873
Rep Power: 2963
Trendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Trendkilla254
Default Re: LPF's Religion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teej View Post
You support what you believe via an understanding of the world based primarily upon a bronze age level of knowledge, the bible, etc.
Nope, I believe in science... I never said I don't. Science is an answer to the how. If you re-read most of my posts it they say "the bible says". I could have just as easily said "science says". It doesn't mean I disregard either/or. It doesn't mean either or are fact. I can choose to like Christianity and support it without throwing out science. I also did state a lot of it doesn't make sense. As well as I would like to try to make sense out of multiple religions and stories throughout history and where their similarities lay. Just because I don't wish to cease to exist... doesn't mean I go blindly into that good night.
__________________
New to Lasers? Click Here! THIS is the thread that answers all your "Where can I..." "Is this..." "How do I..."
Laser Safety
Eye Safety First:Uvex S1933X Skyper Safety Eyewear, Black Frame, SCT-Orange UV Extreme Anti-Fog Lens
"5mw"* 405nm Gearbest Pointer - Highly Unlikely to be 5mw
5mw 445nm Custom Pointer in a former Cordless Drill "Gun Style" Host - proof of concept before going into Nerf Gun
5mw ~515nm Bladed LightSaber Osram pl515 with "Growing Blade" Video attached (Host by Ehgemus)
5mw 532nm Pointer Broken? After months of no use it works now... can't explain.
5mw 685nm from 10fenny in Pen Host - Link - Broke Driver taking it apart
Graveyard
0mw 450nm Osram PL-450 RIP 11/25/2015
Two Laserlands 5mw 445nm Pens

Communication methods: Xbox Live\Skype\Steam\Gmail\Google Plus\Youtube - Trendkilla254
Trendkilla254 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2016, 02:38 AM #6502
TheDukeAnumber1's Avatar
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois
Posts: 2,045
Rep Power: 1474
TheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond repute
TheDukeAnumber1 TheDukeAnumber1 is offline
Class 3R Laser
TheDukeAnumber1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois
Posts: 2,045
Rep Power: 1474
TheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: LPF's Religion

Here is a man who was born in an obscure village, the child of a peasant woman. He grew up in another village. He worked in a carpenter shop until He was thirty. Then for three years He was an itinerant preacher.

He never owned a home. He never wrote a book. He never held an office. He never had a family. He never went to college. He never put His foot inside a big city. He never traveled two hundred miles from the place He was born. He never did one of the things that usually accompany greatness. He had no credentials but Himself...

While still a young man, the tide of popular opinion turned against him. His friends ran away. One of them denied Him. He was turned over to His enemies. He went through the mockery of a trial. He was nailed upon a cross between two thieves. While He was dying His executioners gambled for the only piece of property He had on earth – His coat. When He was dead, He was laid in a borrowed grave through the pity of a friend.

Nineteen long centuries have come and gone, and today He is a centerpiece of the human race and leader of the column of progress.

I am far within the mark when I say that all the armies that ever marched, all the navies that were ever built; all the parliaments that ever sat and all the kings that ever reigned, put together, have not affected the life of man upon this earth as powerfully as has that one solitary life.


This essay was adapted from a sermon by Dr James Allan Francis
__________________
“Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence."
http://laserpointerforums.com/donations.htm
[SIZE="1"]“It is impossible that any ill should happen to the man who is beloved of the Lord; the most crushing calamities can only shorten his journey and hasten him to his reward. Ill to him is no ill, but only good in a mysterious form. Losses enrich him, sickness is his medicine, reproach is his honour, death is his gain. No evil in the strict sense of the word can happen to him, for everything is overruled for good. Happy is he who is in such a case. He is secure where others are in peril, he lives where others die.”—Spurgeon
TheDukeAnumber1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2016, 12:31 PM #6503
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,296
Rep Power: 174
Teej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond repute
Teej Teej is offline
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,296
Rep Power: 174
Teej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond repute
Talking Re: LPF's Religion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trendkilla254 View Post
Nope, I believe in science... I never said I don't. Science is an answer to the how. If you re-read most of my posts it they say "the bible says". I could have just as easily said "science says". It doesn't mean I disregard either/or. It doesn't mean either or are fact. I can choose to like Christianity and support it without throwing out science. I also did state a lot of it doesn't make sense. As well as I would like to try to make sense out of multiple religions and stories throughout history and where their similarities lay. Just because I don't wish to cease to exist... doesn't mean I go blindly into that good night.


OK, so, tell me again about the global flood?

It sounded as though you believed it happened, and was to kill crossbred demons by killing the humans they bred with?


If you don't go blindly, and use science, then, you know there was no global flood.

If no global flood, then, there was no global flood to kill the demon bloodline,
etc.

Teej is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2016, 02:13 PM #6504
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,296
Rep Power: 174
Teej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond repute
Teej Teej is offline
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,296
Rep Power: 174
Teej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond repute
Talking Re: LPF's Religion

Just as there was no global flood....no ark, no Noah, etc...

There was no Exodus.

There was no Exodus, because there was no Moses, and, no killing of first born, plagues as described, etc.

The Moses story is, as is most of the bible, plagiarized from earlier sources:

Basics-

The mother had a baby in secret.
Due to circumstances the baby had to be put away.
This was done by making a basket out of bulrushes and sealing it with tar.
The baby was put into the basket and left adrift on the river.
The baby was discovered by the person who became his foster parent.

The best known earlier version of the above was the myth about the king Sargon. This theme was reflected in early folktales.

Instead of King Sargon, they popped in Moses, and voila, a back story...very handy.


As for getting law on tablets:

One of the most well known ancient code of law, was the Code of Hammurabi, so named after the Amorite king Hammurabi who lived around 1700 BC.

On the great Babylonian stone monument, known as the stele of Hammurabi, a drawing inscribed on it shows the great Amorite King receiving the tablets of the law from the sun god, Shamash.

The similarity does not end here. On the stele too is inscribed the laws that made up the Code of Hammurabi. The general similarity between the code and The “Book of the Covenant” (Exodus chapters 21 to 23) and the legal codes of the books of Leviticus and Deuteronomy cannot be denied.

The Mosaic laws were obviously written under the influence of the Babylonian code. In some cases even the wordings are uncannily close to one another.


For example take this one from the code on the principle of an-eye-for-an-eye:

If a citizen shall put out the eye of another, then let his own eye be put out.
If a citizen shall knock out the teeth of another who is higher in rank, then let his own teeth be knocked out. [4]

This closely parallel’s one of the Lord’s commands in Exodus:

Exodus 21:23-24
And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, ...



Here is another example, the code gives the following principle:

If a citizen steals the son of another citizen, he shall be put to death.

The principle and wording is closely followed in the verse below from Deuteronomy:

Deuteronomy 24:7
If a man be found stealing any of his brethren of the children of Israel...then that thief shall die...


And so forth.



The bible describes folk tales as history, and claims divine origins for its documents by plagiarizing older sources and claiming them as their own.


If the word of GOD, would he need to plagiarize? Would not a GOD be able to come up with something original, and BETTER?

The logical conclusion is that, a GOD, if one existed, could do BETTER than a Bronze Age human...and that the Bronze Age human version of things that the bible, instead, reflects, is simply reflecting the Bronze Age human origins of the writing.

Last edited by Teej; 01-25-2016 at 02:15 PM.
Teej is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2016, 02:21 PM #6505
Trendkilla254's Avatar
Dark Lord of the Sith
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Troy, Texas
Posts: 873
Rep Power: 2963
Trendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Trendkilla254
Trendkilla254 Trendkilla254 is offline
Dark Lord of the Sith
Trendkilla254's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Troy, Texas
Posts: 873
Rep Power: 2963
Trendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Trendkilla254
Default Re: LPF's Religion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teej View Post
OK, so, tell me again about the global flood?

It sounded as though you believed it happened, and was to kill crossbred demons by killing the humans they bred with?


If you don't go blindly, and use science, then, you know there was no global flood.

If no global flood, then, there was no global flood to kill the demon bloodline,
etc.

Nah, It just makes a better story than the original. There were floods. No proof of one that covered the whole earth. There were many floods that wiped out entire civilizations, and this is likely what scholars of the time were speaking of. They thought their whole world flooded though.

Did you miss the part where I said it was a repeat of the same story from the Sumarians?
__________________
New to Lasers? Click Here! THIS is the thread that answers all your "Where can I..." "Is this..." "How do I..."
Laser Safety
Eye Safety First:Uvex S1933X Skyper Safety Eyewear, Black Frame, SCT-Orange UV Extreme Anti-Fog Lens
"5mw"* 405nm Gearbest Pointer - Highly Unlikely to be 5mw
5mw 445nm Custom Pointer in a former Cordless Drill "Gun Style" Host - proof of concept before going into Nerf Gun
5mw ~515nm Bladed LightSaber Osram pl515 with "Growing Blade" Video attached (Host by Ehgemus)
5mw 532nm Pointer Broken? After months of no use it works now... can't explain.
5mw 685nm from 10fenny in Pen Host - Link - Broke Driver taking it apart
Graveyard
0mw 450nm Osram PL-450 RIP 11/25/2015
Two Laserlands 5mw 445nm Pens

Communication methods: Xbox Live\Skype\Steam\Gmail\Google Plus\Youtube - Trendkilla254

Last edited by Trendkilla254; 01-25-2016 at 02:22 PM.
Trendkilla254 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2016, 04:43 PM #6506
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,296
Rep Power: 174
Teej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond repute
Teej Teej is offline
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,296
Rep Power: 174
Teej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond repute
Talking Re: LPF's Religion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trendkilla254 View Post
Nah, It just makes a better story than the original. There were floods. No proof of one that covered the whole earth. There were many floods that wiped out entire civilizations, and this is likely what scholars of the time were speaking of. They thought their whole world flooded though.

Did you miss the part where I said it was a repeat of the same story from the Sumarians?
Right, but, then, what of the demon bloodlines, etc?



Did I misunderstand your view of the bible?

On one hand, you seem to express that its not just a story book, and, on the other, that it is just a story book?

Would it then be correct to say you believe it to be just a story book?

Last edited by Teej; 01-25-2016 at 04:43 PM.
Teej is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2016, 05:01 PM #6507
Trendkilla254's Avatar
Dark Lord of the Sith
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Troy, Texas
Posts: 873
Rep Power: 2963
Trendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Trendkilla254
Trendkilla254 Trendkilla254 is offline
Dark Lord of the Sith
Trendkilla254's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Troy, Texas
Posts: 873
Rep Power: 2963
Trendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Trendkilla254
Default Re: LPF's Religion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teej View Post
Right, but, then, what of the demon bloodlines, etc?



Did I misunderstand your view of the bible?

On one hand, you seem to express that its not just a story book, and, on the other, that it is just a story book?

Would it then be correct to say you believe it to be just a story book?
I read the bible as several person's view of their history as they see it. It is a religion, it doesn't have to make sense for those that follow it. I am not one of those persons. I want to to make as much sense as possible. I want to know WHY those people wrote it. (other than the religious indoctrination in order to control the masses and get money... which is of course the primary reason.)

The "demon blood" part is just my take on how I see the story when you look at it from an outside perspective and if you combine the stories of the Annunaki as told by the ancient sumarians and other civilizations. I take it as a base story to build on. It is a story.

I would like to believe there is some factual basis in the original stories. "Like to believe" being the key words. I will state yet again, Wanting to believe something does not make one believe it. My statement that I would rather be a Christian than an Atheist simply goes back to the I would rather not cease to exist. Believing it doesn't change the facts, it doesn't change whether I will or won't exist, and it doesn't change science. (not that anyone said it did)

In all what does this cause? It causes truths to be bent to fit the needs. But it's fun though right?
__________________
New to Lasers? Click Here! THIS is the thread that answers all your "Where can I..." "Is this..." "How do I..."
Laser Safety
Eye Safety First:Uvex S1933X Skyper Safety Eyewear, Black Frame, SCT-Orange UV Extreme Anti-Fog Lens
"5mw"* 405nm Gearbest Pointer - Highly Unlikely to be 5mw
5mw 445nm Custom Pointer in a former Cordless Drill "Gun Style" Host - proof of concept before going into Nerf Gun
5mw ~515nm Bladed LightSaber Osram pl515 with "Growing Blade" Video attached (Host by Ehgemus)
5mw 532nm Pointer Broken? After months of no use it works now... can't explain.
5mw 685nm from 10fenny in Pen Host - Link - Broke Driver taking it apart
Graveyard
0mw 450nm Osram PL-450 RIP 11/25/2015
Two Laserlands 5mw 445nm Pens

Communication methods: Xbox Live\Skype\Steam\Gmail\Google Plus\Youtube - Trendkilla254
Trendkilla254 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2016, 05:04 PM #6508
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,296
Rep Power: 174
Teej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond repute
Teej Teej is offline
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,296
Rep Power: 174
Teej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond repute
Talking Re: LPF's Religion

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDukeAnumber1 View Post
Here is a man who was born in an obscure village, (Or, not, as there is no documentation that he was born, or, that the obscure village existed when he was supposed to have born in it) the child of a peasant woman (Or maybe a blessed virgin visited by kings). He grew up in another village (Or not, as we don't have any records of him being born at all, let alone where he was afterwards). He worked in a carpenter shop until He was thirty (Or didn't, because carpenter may have been a simple assumption, based upon the mistaken town he was supposed to be from, where that was a common profession). Then for three years He was an itinerant preacher (or not, as only the bible, again, says this).

He never owned a home (There is no documentation he existed, or rented, or was homeless). He never wrote a book (Neither did mighty mouse). He never held an office (Neither did mighty mouse). He never had a family (Again, we don't really even know if he existed, and, the stories allegeded he had a mother, and brothers). He never went to college (Neither did mighty mouse). He never put His foot inside a big city (Neither did mighty mouse). He never traveled two hundred miles from the place He was born (Hard to know how far mighty mouse traveled). He never did one of the things that usually accompany greatness. He had no credentials but Himself...(He was alleged to have cured diseases, helped the poor, walked on water, made fruit trees sterile, and, later, appear on toilet stains and tortilla chips, bridge efflorescence stains, etc....all of which might be things associated with greatness...its himself that seems to be missing actually)

While still a young man, the tide of popular opinion turned against him. His friends ran away. One of them denied Him. He was turned over to His enemies. He went through the mockery of a trial. He was nailed upon a cross between two thieves. While He was dying His executioners gambled for the only piece of property He had on earth – His coat. When He was dead, He was laid in a borrowed grave through the pity of a friend. (Or not, as the stories disagree)

Nineteen long centuries have come and gone, and today He is a centerpiece of the human race and leader of the column of progress. (He is largely forgotten as a leader, and, we have bumper stickers pleading us to put him back into holidays named after him. Ironically, the holiday is now more associated with St Nick, who was at the council of Nicaea where they voted on the nature of Jesus's existence, changed his dad from messianic line of Jews to god, sewed up his mom's hymen, eliminated his siblings, and assigned him a profession and back story)

I am far within the mark when I say that all the armies that ever marched, all the navies that were ever built; all the parliaments that ever sat and all the kings that ever reigned, put together, have not affected the life of man upon this earth as powerfully as has that one solitary life. (Right now, Mohamed might be having more of an impact actually. So, yes, much of the woe in this world can be blamed on the imaginary subject under discussion...such as the Crusades and so forth, and the long term impact on world peace...but its not mighty mouses' fault really...its the organizations that invented the mouse, and how to make the mouse power an industry that depended upon propagation of the belief in the mouse.)





This essay was adapted from a sermon by Dr James Allan Francis



Teej is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2016, 05:10 PM #6509
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,296
Rep Power: 174
Teej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond repute
Teej Teej is offline
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,296
Rep Power: 174
Teej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond reputeTeej has a reputation beyond repute
Talking Re: LPF's Religion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trendkilla254 View Post
I read the bible as several person's view of their history as they see it. It is a religion, it doesn't have to make sense for those that follow it. I am not one of those persons. I want to to make as much sense as possible. I want to know WHY those people wrote it. (other than the religious indoctrination in order to control the masses and get money... which is of course the primary reason.)

The "demon blood" part is just my take on how I see the story when you look at it from an outside perspective and if you combine the stories of the Annunaki as told by the ancient sumarians and other civilizations. I take it as a base story to build on. It is a story.

I would like to believe there is some factual basis in the original stories. "Like to believe" being the key words. I will state yet again, Wanting to believe something does not make one believe it.

My statement that I would rather be a Christian than an Atheist simply goes back to the I would rather not cease to exist.

Believing it doesn't change the facts, it doesn't change whether I will or won't exist, and it doesn't change science. (not that anyone said it did)

In all what does this cause? It causes truths to be bent to fit the needs. But it's fun though right?


OK, so....its just a story book, based upon ancient folk tales...and you see it as such....

...but, don't want to stop existing when you die, so, want to be christian because it means life after death, as opposed to an atheist, because it means life before death...

...while acknowledging that believing one or the other doesn't change what happens...?



That sounds like you've made Pascal's Wager, with yourself?

But, what if you're wrong, and, you chose the wrong branch of christianity, or the wrong religion altogether? What if only Jews, such as Jesus, go to heaven?

Teej is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2016, 07:40 PM #6510
Trendkilla254's Avatar
Dark Lord of the Sith
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Troy, Texas
Posts: 873
Rep Power: 2963
Trendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Trendkilla254
Trendkilla254 Trendkilla254 is offline
Dark Lord of the Sith
Trendkilla254's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Troy, Texas
Posts: 873
Rep Power: 2963
Trendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond reputeTrendkilla254 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via Skype™ to Trendkilla254
Default Re: LPF's Religion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teej View Post
OK, so....its just a story book, based upon ancient folk tales...and you see it as such....

...but, don't want to stop existing when you die, so, want to be christian because it means life after death, as opposed to an atheist, because it means life before death...

...while acknowledging that believing one or the other doesn't change what happens...?



That sounds like you've made Pascal's Wager, with yourself?

But, what if you're wrong, and, you chose the wrong branch of christianity, or the wrong religion altogether? What if only Jews, such as Jesus, go to heaven?


Well technically no one goes to heaven or hell. You go to Hades. Then when the rapture happens, that is the judgement day. Again another point that doesn't make sense because it states that you are separated based upon acts in life while in Hades prior to the judgement. *See Lazarus story

It's not so much about the branch of Christianity. I've never heard of a branch that focuses on a more flesh/blood and literal translation of the bible. Most of the people I hear are Christian are appalled when I tell them the Bible actually says the Fallen angels bred with human women.

Jews don't believe in an afterlife... it'd be hard for them to go to heaven.

Pascal's Wager... Yeah kinda. It says you wager with your life. I wouldn't go as far as to kill myself to find out. So I'm not really gambling with my life.
__________________
New to Lasers? Click Here! THIS is the thread that answers all your "Where can I..." "Is this..." "How do I..."
Laser Safety
Eye Safety First:Uvex S1933X Skyper Safety Eyewear, Black Frame, SCT-Orange UV Extreme Anti-Fog Lens
"5mw"* 405nm Gearbest Pointer - Highly Unlikely to be 5mw
5mw 445nm Custom Pointer in a former Cordless Drill "Gun Style" Host - proof of concept before going into Nerf Gun
5mw ~515nm Bladed LightSaber Osram pl515 with "Growing Blade" Video attached (Host by Ehgemus)
5mw 532nm Pointer Broken? After months of no use it works now... can't explain.
5mw 685nm from 10fenny in Pen Host - Link - Broke Driver taking it apart
Graveyard
0mw 450nm Osram PL-450 RIP 11/25/2015
Two Laserlands 5mw 445nm Pens

Communication methods: Xbox Live\Skype\Steam\Gmail\Google Plus\Youtube - Trendkilla254

Last edited by Trendkilla254; 01-25-2016 at 07:42 PM.
Trendkilla254 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2016, 09:00 PM #6511
TheDukeAnumber1's Avatar
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois
Posts: 2,045
Rep Power: 1474
TheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond repute
TheDukeAnumber1 TheDukeAnumber1 is offline
Class 3R Laser
TheDukeAnumber1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Illinois
Posts: 2,045
Rep Power: 1474
TheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond reputeTheDukeAnumber1 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: LPF's Religion

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teej View Post
Here is a man who was born in an obscure village, (Or, not, as there is no documentation that he was born,

as we don't have any records of him being born at all
There is overwhelming evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ in both secular and biblical history. It is unreasonable to doubt a mans birth because you lack a "birth certificate" when you have overwhelming evidence for his existence.
__________________
“Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence."
http://laserpointerforums.com/donations.htm
[SIZE="1"]“It is impossible that any ill should happen to the man who is beloved of the Lord; the most crushing calamities can only shorten his journey and hasten him to his reward. Ill to him is no ill, but only good in a mysterious form. Losses enrich him, sickness is his medicine, reproach is his honour, death is his gain. No evil in the strict sense of the word can happen to him, for everything is overruled for good. Happy is he who is in such a case. He is secure where others are in peril, he lives where others die.”—Spurgeon

Last edited by TheDukeAnumber1; 01-25-2016 at 09:01 PM.
TheDukeAnumber1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-25-2016, 10:10 PM #6512
Cyparagon's Avatar
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 9,126
Rep Power: 7960
Cyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond repute
Cyparagon Cyparagon is online now
Class 4 Laser
Cyparagon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 9,126
Rep Power: 7960
Cyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: LPF's Religion

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDukeAnumber1 View Post
There is overwhelming evidence for the existence of Jesus Christ in both secular and biblical history.
You and I disagreeing on what "overwhelming" means aside, even if there was a man named jesus that lived, you'd need to prove he performed the things he did. Then you'd need to prove those "miracles" were supernatural. Then you'd need to prove the supernatural is governed by God and God alone. Then you'd need to prove God inspired the bible. Then you'd need to prove it hasn't been corrupted in any way by man. Then you'd need to prove your interpretation of scripture is the only correct interpretation of scripture. That's too many leaps for me to make. All of your stated reasons to believe could be applied to the Quran, and yet you do not believe the words of the Quran.

I'm not even convinced on the first premise. A preacher named Jesus possibly existed, and that's as far as I agree.
__________________
A problem well stated is a problem half solved.
Cyparagon is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply





Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://laserpointerforums.com/f57/lpf-s-religion-34223.html
Posted By For Type Date
DARPA Continues Human Experiments to Create Military Super Soldiers - Top US World News | Susanne Posel Daily Headlines and Research This thread Refback 08-05-2014 01:49 AM
Def belongs in my future home | Caylin's | Pinterest This thread Refback 05-19-2014 05:18 PM
Man slays son; claims God told him to | Say What? This thread Refback 06-17-2012 04:35 AM
LPF's Religion - Page 92 - Laser Pointer Forums - Discuss Lasers & Laser Pointers This thread Refback 02-29-2012 04:46 AM










Loading








Green Laser Pointers by Category Blue Laser Pointers by Category Red Laser Pointers by Category
Yellow Laser Pointers by Category Violet Laser Pointers by Category Orange Laser Pointers by Category
Top Laser Pointers by Power - 1 Watt+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 500mW+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 250mW+
Laser Pointer Database High Power Laser Pointers Laser Pointer Diodes






Privacy Policy | Advertising Disclaimer | Terms of Use


 


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:34 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO
Privacy Policy | Advertising Disclaimer | Terms of Use
Copyright (C) 2017 Laser Pointer Forums, LLC