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Old 03-06-2015, 04:24 PM #5313
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God will rapture His saints and then bring back 200 Angels (i think it's 200) and wipe out stuff on earth. If u want to know what I'm saying read the KJV Bible.

He didn't make creation a failure. Did u not read where satan tempted Eve and she ate the fruit from the tree of good and evil? This was a sin. Satan tricked Eve. God said dont eat of this tree but satan said oh Eve u can eat of this tree and then you'll be as powerful as God. All things work out for good for the one who serve Him (God) also God said "If u truly love me you will keep my commandments"



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God will rapture His saints and then bring back 200 Angels (i think it's 200) and wipe out stuff on earth. If u want to know what I'm saying read the KJV Bible.

He didn't make creation a failure. Did u not read where satan tempted Eve and she ate the fruit from the tree of good and evil? This was a sin. Satan tricked Eve. God said dont eat of this tree but satan said oh Eve u can eat of this tree and then you'll be as powerful as God. All things work out for good for the one who serve Him (God) also God said "If u truly love me you will keep my commandments"
But you said god made Satan...and, it was a talking snake?

If god cast Satan out, what was he doing in Eden?


What does cast out even mean if Satan can go where he pleases and pose as a talking snake?

Why would god make the people not know right from wrong, yet expect them to not do something wrong?

In court, they'd be innocent for example.


So, if god made them need an apple to know right from wrong...but they can't HAVE the apple...BECAUSE its wrong...

...THAT'S NOT setting them up for failure?



Its a GOOD EXAMPLE of being set up to fail.

Why?


PS - I have STUDIED the KJV, not just read it. YOU seem unfamiliar with it though. Is that because you know it from sermons, but not study?

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God will rapture His saints and then bring back 200 Angels (i think it's 200) and wipe out stuff on earth. If u want to know what I'm saying read the KJV Bible.

He didn't make creation a failure. Did u not read where satan tempted Eve and she ate the fruit from the tree of good and evil? This was a sin. Satan tricked Eve. God said dont eat of this tree but satan said oh Eve u can eat of this tree and then you'll be as powerful as God. All things work out for good for the one who serve Him (God) also God said "If u truly love me you will keep my commandments"
Hey man you saying this isn't going to work. Teej has a good argument against what your saying so if you want to be right you need to seriously buck up and look around you. I personally don't agree with Teej but what your saying is full of bs with some truth here and there.
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The end of the world is not by Satan. God will burn the earth with extreme heat cause He has given us so much mercy but we still keep sinning and not truly apologizing to God. Read Revelation it will tell u. The moon will turn the color of blood. <-- I think the moon thing was from Acts.

Well Teej ppl don't want to except the real faith cause they want to keep sinning and sinning and don't understand that there doing something wrong

And the true religion (which goes by the Bible and God) preaches against sin
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12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixt seale, and loe, there was a great earthquake, and the Sunne became blacke as sackecloth of haire, and the Moone became as blood.

13 And the starres of heauen fell vnto the earth, euen as a figge tree casteth her vntimely figs when she is shaken of a mighty winde.

14 And the heauen departed as a scrowle when it is rolled together, and euery mountaine and Island were moued out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chiefe captaines, and the mighty men, and euery bondman, and euery free man, hid themselues in the dennes, and in the rockes of the mountaines,


So, the stars fall out of the sky and fell onto the earth, etc...

That's pretty serious, considering they are not actually just pretty lights floating up there as decorations...I mean, even one star, traveling the billions of miles and landing here would incinerate the planet before it even reached us...given them being suns and all, etc. One star was NAMED wormewood, and it was to kill some men by making 1/3 of the water go bad. I have a sneaking suspicion that they had seen "shooting stars" which are of course not stars...and thought that if the stars they saw in the night sky were to "fall" that that's what they'd see. They apparently never noticed that after seeing "A shooting star", that none of the stars in the sky were actually missing.





Oddly, even after assorted SUNS land on earth, there is still grass and so forth...and more stuff about scorpions wearing armored breastplates, etc...



I suppose because ancient people didn't know what stars were, and had no idea that they were EACH much larger than the earth itself, and, really really HOT too, and NOT really small and really close, but, actually really enormous and really far away.....so, they had LOTS of them land at choice locations, w/o realizing that stars are really like our own sun.

Having made all that stuff, you'd think god, of all people, would have KNOWN that...ESPECIALLY being all knowing, etc.




Of course, it could have all been just a bad dream by an iron age man, that had no bearing on anyone's lives later.

Lets face it, the apostles, as a group, were prone to this sort of thing.


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Hmmm. Teej u said what does cast out even mean. It means he threw him out of Heaven. Hell was made for satan and his demons and for the ppl who sin and don't give there life's to Jesus and serve Him.
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Hmmm. Teej u said what does cast out even mean. It means he threw him out of Heaven. Hell was made for satan and his demons and for the ppl who sin and don't give there life's to Jesus and serve Him.
Hell is made for people who are unholy and unrighteous. We are unrighteous but Jesus died to make us righteous. It only worked because he was perfect.
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Gottcha what I was sayin is why is he mocking Jesus and I was giving him the chance to rethink his stupidity.
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He knew it was going to fail before he created it. That means he made it a failure.
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Hmmm. Teej u said what does cast out even mean. It means he threw him out of Heaven. Hell was made for satan and his demons and for the ppl who sin and don't give there life's to Jesus and serve Him.
Right, so why was he allowed in EDEN?

And allowed to be a talking snake?


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If god wanted man to NOT fail, why make it so they needed AN APPLE to know right from wrong?

Why not make them knowing right from wrong, and, not need an apple?


IE: He COULD have decided to let them know right from wrong, so that they would treat all their kids and grand kids nicely, and their kids would then treat their kids, and neighbors well, etc...and not steal from them or kill them.


If MANKIND would all live forever/be immortal...AND never know right from wrong or have knowledge...and spend all their time being fruitful and multiplying in the Garden of Eden....

Would not the place be eventually over crowded with their progeny, and, with no laws or sense of right and wrong...wouldn't they still all be dumb, naked and breeding like rabbits? With no sense of right or wrong, and no knowledge, they might do things that god considered to be sins.



If mankind didn't know right from wrong, they might kill each other, etc. So, no apple = murder and sin, etc.



If that's what god WANTED of mankind, an enormous population of murderous thieving dumb bunnies, WHY IN THE WORLD would he put an APPLE, on the tree of knowledge and all that...right there where they'd be sure to see it?


IF they KNEW right from wrong, fine...they might have had a CHANCE to leave the apple alone.

BUT HE MADE THEM NEED THE APPLE TO KNOW THAT.


So, again, that's setting them up for failure.

Its a BAD PLAN.


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He knew it was going to fail before he created it. That means he made it a failure.
Hey I agree that that is a good question. I've asked my parents and youth pastor and they really don't know either because there not God. But I've made that discussion to put it aside and trust Jesus and know that idk everything.
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Well, to take it to its logical conclusion...as its HIS PLAN, and HE set up mankind TO FAIL, he obviously WANTED mankind TO FAIL.

Actually, the more I think about laserz posts, the more it sounds like what we get from the governments when there's a coupe or assassination, etc.



Here's what its sounding like to me: (If we are running with the biblical story)

1) No one would make a rival for himself on purpose...so, the idea of god making Satan and having a plan for him to rebel against him is ridiculous.

2) The reasons we are told that Satan rebelled make no sense either, unless Satan was god's equal, and actually COULD take over.

3) So, if Satan and god were equals, and created separately, then it would make sense to fight for supremacy.

4) OK, they are supposedly fighting for EARTH. THAT'S where we're told SATAN is "cast down to". That makes no sense either...send the loser to where the WINNER would have wanted to go anyway?

5) Its far more likely that SATAN banished god to heaven, far from earth...and took earth for himself.

6) Now, we get the names for the players and their attributes spoon fed to us...we are TOLD that god is good and Satan is evil, where they live, their motivations, who did what when, etc.

7) Logic indicates that this is propaganda. No one is ALLOWED to even CONSIDER that the REAL roles might be reversed.

8) So, the EARTHLY representative of "god on earth" is the pope. The Catholic Church, which is an apostolic religion...was, according to the bible, the ONE TRUE CHURCH, and, was founded by the apostles.

9) The Catholic Church is therefore representing the party that we were TOLD was Satan, indirectly, here on earth, and, spreading propaganda to smear the reputation of god.

IE: God was the one who was banished, to heaven, and Satan is on earth, but, we call him god.

10) That helps to explain all the warnings about FALSE messiah's, and how you can't tell them from real ones, so, they (In practice) are therefore ALL to be considered to be fake.

11) So, if the one banished to heaven tries to send a messenger, you are programmed to reject him...and to ONLY consider Jesus the messiah.

Its Jesus coming BACK in fact according to the bible.


Of course, if the bible makes no sense, the above, which is based upon it, would therefore also not make sense. (Garbage in = Garbage Out).

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Well, to take it to its logical conclusion...as its HIS PLAN, and HE set up mankind TO FAIL, he obviously WANTED mankind TO FAIL.

Actually, the more I think about laserz posts, the more it sounds like what we get from the governments when there's a coupe or assassination, etc.



Here's what its sounding like to me: (If we are running with the biblical story)

1) No one would make a rival for himself on purpose...so, the idea of god making Satan and having a plan for him to rebel against him is ridiculous.

2) The reasons we are told that Satan rebelled make no sense either, unless Satan was god's equal, and actually COULD take over.

3) So, if Satan and god were equals, and created separately, then it would make sense to fight for supremacy.

4) OK, they are supposedly fighting for EARTH. THAT'S where we're told SATAN is "cast down to". That makes no sense either...send the loser to where the WINNER would have wanted to go anyway?

5) Its far more likely that SATAN banished god to heaven, far from earth...and took earth for himself.

6) Now, we get the names for the players and their attributes spoon fed to us...we are TOLD that god is good and Satan is evil, where they live, their motivations, who did what when, etc.

7) Logic indicates that this is propaganda. No one is ALLOWED to even CONSIDER that the REAL roles might be reversed.

8) So, the EARTHLY representative of "god on earth" is the pope. The Catholic Church, which is an apostolic religion...was, according to the bible, the ONE TRUE CHURCH, and, was founded by the apostles.

9) The Catholic Church is therefore representing the party that we were TOLD was Satan, indirectly, here on earth, and, spreading propaganda to smear the reputation of god.

IE: God was the one who was banished, to heaven, and Satan is on earth, but, we call him god.

10) That helps to explain all the warnings about FALSE messiah's, and how you can't tell them from real ones, so, they (In practice) are therefore ALL to be considered to be fake.

11) So, if the one banished to heaven tries to send a messenger, you are programmed to reject him...and to ONLY consider Jesus the messiah.

Its Jesus coming BACK in fact according to the bible.


Of course, if the bible makes no sense, the above, which is based upon it, would therefore also not make sense. (Garbage in = Garbage Out).

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Gottcha what I was sayin is why is he mocking Jesus and I was giving him the chance to rethink his stupidity.
1) I'll mock whomever I wan't.

2) I won't rethink anything. I said it, I meant it, and I'll stand by it.

3) Stupidity? Really? How is it stupidity? You said he would experience human things and morning wood, is in fact, a human thing to experience.

4) I'll mock whomever I wan't.
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