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There is a difference between taking a break, and long term disuse. You guys can research it for yourself should you desire, but suffice it to say that long term lack of use, regardless of whether you're playing hans solo with your darth vader, or have leia there to help out can result in permanent shrinkage.


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Are you talking about your dick or about summer break for the kids? If your suggesting the kids shouldn't have summer break that is one of the stupidest things you could say. I remember very clearly how unpleasant and unfriendly a place school was and how dangerous it was! It would be in humane to do away with their summer break. You would have some kids going insane and more incidents of kids bringing guns to school and killing people.

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Well, I couldn't take high school very well myself, I quit in the 9th grade to join the USCG, later going to college. I hated school, really, really hated it back then but found college to be very rewarding.
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I really hated it as well and I can't state that strongly enough. US public schools are among the worst in the world! Or at least I hope they are, because if they aren't then the rest of the world is far worse off than I thought it was!

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I really hated it as well and I can't state that strongly enough. US public schools are among the worst in the world! Or at least I hope they are, because if they aren't then the rest of the world is far worse off than I thought it was!

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So....we have the worst public schools in the world, and, we take summers off so the kids forget everything they learned and have to catch back up in the fall, etc...

And you were one of the MAJORITY who hated school, and, think perhaps we should not have to go because we don't like it?

I mean, if taking a longer break in the summer is nice, and a break from school which is anathema, would not also taking a longer break in the Fall, Spring and Winter, so as to leave no classes at all, be even better than that?

I'm sure our public schools would then be the envy (of school children) around the world.

I am not convinced that less education would improve things in this country though...there's something counter intuitive about that.

Personally, I think we'd be better off with seasonal breaks of a few weeks each, instead of a few months each.

The TRADITION of long summer breaks of course is cherished, by myself included, but, to maintain the antiquated practice is hard to justify. Its especially hard to justify given that our kids are handicapped academically by the schedule.

If given the choice, a large number of kids would decide not to go at all, as they felt tortured and ostracized in school, and it was a very unpleasant experience, at least socially, even if academically they did well. Others were tortured by the academic aspects, and might have been OK socially....while the most miserable group were struggling both socially and academically.

I breezed through myself, with lots of friends and interests, no real trouble other than bullies, but, I learned to deal with them and after that, no serious problems. My home life was my hell. Some of the other kids though were going through personal HELLS in school though. They just never seemed to learn the social skills needed to cope with what was going on, or how to gain perspective on their lives that helped them get through it or even thrive.

Their idea of coping was learning to put the thermometer just close enough to a light bulb to get a temperature that let them stay home, but not rushed to an ER, etc.

Mine was to tackle things head on...hence the problems I had with bullies...I would attack them when they bullied other kids, and, I got into a lot of trouble over that for excess fighting...which I had a fondness for as a release from the a fore mentioned home life.

I was not a big kid, I was the smallest kid in my class pretty much through most of HS...and, that made me a target. I learned that the impetus for a bully is to make himself feel better about himself by belittling you...and, once I understood that, fighting back and not cowering ruins it for them, especially if you can do any visible damage at all, like a black eye or swollen lip, etc.

Later I fine tuned that knowledge into non-physical coping methods, whereby I could get in their head and sometimes even get to know them, which in the long run, was the most productive, as they mostly just have low self esteem, and, are desperate for acceptance/friendship.

Anyway - As much as school's a drag, making it shorter is not the answer. Making it less of a hell for the kids would be more productive in the long run.


Stretching the traditional days off to include other's religious holidays that warrant it, and shortening the Summer Break, would be the most logical way to do it.

It would also be good to not dilute what little education the kids get, with things like alchemy instead of chemistry, and astrology instead of astronomy, as is apparently now essentially required to be taught in some more backwards districts....further ensuring the kid's lack of ability to compete in a global economy.

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Well I don't think I have a problem with changing the schedule of their breaks as long as the total number of days aren't increased. They have school 180 days a year if I remember right, not sure if it's exactly that in every state. I guess it wouldn't make much difference if you broke it up into multiple shorter breaks.

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-In males, it cycles out semen, thus improving reproductive potential
-Good for the heart

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-Can be messy
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Also, men continuously generate new sperm, so its not a "waste" any more than a woman shedding an egg every month.

I believe in biology and our biology says its a good thing to do.
The problems come with the ***ual fantasy and ****ography, those things are degrading to and dilute real relationships.
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I kinda agree, though I say for the fantasy part it depends. it's true that women do not often appreciate their man viewing it (p0rn), as it makes them feel a multitude of horrible crap, though some dont care. If I were a woman in a relationship, I would care. For me, part of ***ual intimacy is knowing the person closely, which strengthens the bond for better ***. I sort of liken p0rn viewing to visiting a prostitute. it's pure physical release and desire, with no deeper connection or lasting commitment. I suppose it may not be that damaging if the person still maintains a strong desire for that personal connection, I do think the best *** is a blending of the two. and I dont even believe in god

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The problems come with the ***ual fantasy and ****ography, those things are degrading to and dilute real relationships.
There is certainly an argument to be made for that... but look at the other side of the equation and what happens when say a large religious organization espouses celibacy, and provide for no form of release at all.


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[QUOTE=TheDukeAnumber1;1347548]You're letting a few represent the many./QUOTE]

No I'm not... it's fair to say that Catholics actually represent the majority the Christian faith around the world.

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Matt 5:28-29 (NIV) [Jesus:] "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell."
Hmm... that seems kind of extreme.
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The problems come with the ***ual fantasy and ****ography, those things are degrading to and dilute real relationships.
In some people perhaps, but you can't say that about everyone. Maybe some couples enjoy watching it together.

With regards to school, what needs to change is how they go about teaching. Think of the early grades, before high school. Field trips and hands on learning are much more common. But come high school, its all reading from textbooks and listening to teachers drone on about stuff some students don't care about.

School needs to be hands on. It needs to make students care about what they're learning by actually having them experience it in an enjoyable way.

And schools need to be more flexible to what a student wants/needs. In my high school, math was a requirement up to grade 11, and it got into some pretty advanced stuff. It was hard, boring, and I hated it. But I had to do it to graduate from high school, and it made the whole experience that much worse.

I wanted to be an animator all through high school, why should I be forced to do advance mathematics that I'm never going to use? Put me in an advanced art or film class instead, I'll get much more from that.
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No I'm not... it's fair to say that Catholics actually represent the majority the Christian faith around the world.
The implications of your picture point to pedophilic reverends, who are the few among the many of non-pedophilic reverends.

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It's important to select your viewpoint here.

To a believer, yes of course it would be better to lose a part of the body than to be thrown into hell. But ask yourself - "Is the eye really the cause of the sin"

To an atheist, there is no god, there is no sin, then there is not action.

You're borrowing a moral framework from somewhere else to evaluate this.
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The problems come with the ***ual fantasy and ****ography, those things are degrading to and dilute real relationships.
Only if you have that bizarre biblical guilt about them.

Thinking your ѕexuality is inherently sinful is what is degrading to relationships, not pоrn.
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The implications of your picture point to pedophilic reverends, who are the few among the many of non-pedophilic reverends.
Granted, but pedophiles fortunately represent a very small proportion of the population at large. That said, a cult that requires people to be celibate to maintain their societal position, would naturally seem to encourage the cover up of any ***ually related activities.

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It's important to select your viewpoint here.

To a believer, yes of course it would be better to lose a part of the body than to be thrown into hell. But ask yourself - "Is the eye really the cause of the sin"
Then please do explain to me why there are so few walking around blind? Clearly strict adherence is not required for one for one to consider him/herself christian, so where is the line drawn? Just parts of what the bible says need to be followed, or all? Who gets to decide?

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You're borrowing a moral framework from somewhere else to evaluate this.
My moral framework is actually very very simple. Do no harm. That's it. What I do in the privacy of my own home alone, or after a date with a girlfriend, let alone the thoughts that pass through my head after seeing a girl in tight yoga pants at the gym... none of that harms anyone.

Promoting celibacy in your supposed best and brightest... advising extreme self harm for merely looking, and/or having fantasies, making people feel ashamed of natural urges, of who and what they are, forcing them to conform to your beliefs through force, if not directly by you, than certainly through your support of those who do... that... that seems harmful.
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I know I'm going to regret posting here, but I'm going to anyway =P. Why are we fighting over what's right and wrong on a laser forum? Why can't we all just accept that people are going to have different beliefs? We all have a common interest, and that's lasers. Being an uncommon hobby already, what do you think will happen if we fight among ourselves to the point where we shun each other because of our religious beliefs? I'm glad this is has been contained to one thread, but even that can cause damage to an otherwise amazing community . I could be a pastafarian for all you know, but should it change the way you read my posts and replies about lasers? This is just food for thought, I don't want to start a war, so I'm unsubbing from this thread.
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