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I am a complete atheist. To me, it is completely unreasonable that anything have been "created" by some god or any other wierd being. Science has reasonable and logic explainations about everything, religion has NOT. At least to me, all religion are bullshit and have caused more wars than anything else. Much terrorism in the world is based on religion.

Science rules the universe, and will always do.

Of course this is only my opinion. Everyone is free to believe in whatever thay want. I respect other people's different beliefs, even if I don't belive in them. Everyone has the right to have their own opinion, which is good.


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Science does not rule the universe, not when you understand that the laws of physics aren't infinite, and can be bent.
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I'm the only one who voted for buddhism... :-?
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Science and religion can co-exist. *We here only attempt to understand and quantify the laws made at creation.

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your wrong mike,they cant co-exist.we are fighting a war between science /rationalism and stupidity aka religion.

science will win. religion is for sheep,remember *only sheep have need of a Shepard. come visit us over at * brights.net
Awesome topic!! I cannot believe there is a place I can exclaim I am an &quot;athiest&quot;, &quot;anti-theist&quot;, &quot;Bright&quot;, whatever, no supernatural, at all, (well maybe a little Pasta-farianism). ;D ;D I guess it make sense, one will have very little luck wishing lasers to work properly
Wow, I am out of the closet, weee!!.
As far as the &quot;war&quot; between science and religion, I beleive they have nothing to do with each other. Science is a &quot;process&quot; of observation of the natural-world, things that may be witnessed, hypothisised, predicted, tested and pier-reviewed, religion speaks exclusivly about the &quot;super-natural&quot; world, to me, no overlap. Now I beleive there is a war, and always has been between the &quot;rational&quot; and &quot;irrational ideas&quot;, at times I think we have all found ourselves on each side of this dicotomy. Science also has no ability to speak on moral-issues, so our politics should be seperate from both as well, science needs to inform the politicians, but the measure of morals is extremly relative and must be decided by the people and reviewed over time, therefore, not a field for science.
I really hope this topic stays rational, there is so much emotion wrapped up in these things, BTW I love the pictures! ;D
It is nice to be on the majority-side for a change.
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Yeah I know how you feel, I've not been with the majority since ... never until now that is :P
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I'm the only one who voted for buddhism... :-?
If I am not mistaken, Buddism is not generally considered a religion, rather a philosophy. You can be a Buddist and whatever else, except the &quot;whatever else&quot; usually does not like the competition and wants you to choose.
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[quote author=meth400 link=1215918067/20#26 date=1216089443]BTW I love the pictures! ;D
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I'm a non-donominational Christian, and I am proud of it.
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You forgot to add none.

Edit: Oh crap, I didn't read it properly...
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I'm athiest. Maybe with a hint of buddhist.
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So, you live in a house that was designed and created by someone,

you take a HD burner that was designed and created by someone for burning a disc

You spend a while removing a small hunk of metal and silicone, that was designed and created by someone.

Remove the diode inside that was designed by someone to do something incredible following laws that someone learned

You develop a power supply and spend hours creating and building said power supply so that it perfectly supplies the exact amount of current and voltage to this little diode inside the hunk of metal.

Then you use your intellect to produce a device that is different from the original purpose - A High Power Laser Pointer

You then look up at the stars and realize that your laser pales in comparison to the power of the stars,

But in all your INFINITE WISDOM you conclude that YOU are the most intelligent creature in the Universe!

I'm sorry, IMO, my ego isn't that big.

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you take a HD burner that was designed and created by someone for burning a disc

You spend a while removing a small hunk of metal and silicone, that was designed and created by someone.

Remove the diode inside that was designed by someone to do something incredible following laws that someone learned

You develop a power supply and spend hours creating and building said power supply so that it perfectly supplies the exact amount of current and voltage to this little diode inside the hunk of metal.

Then you use your intellect to produce a device that is different from the original purpose - A High Power Laser Pointer

You then look up at the stars and realize that your laser pales in comparison to the power of the stars,

But in all your INFINITE WISDOM you conclude that YOU are the most intelligent creature in the Universe!

I'm sorry, IMO, my ego isn't that big.

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This is a &quot;straw-man&quot; argument, nobody said that we are &quot;the most intelligent creature in the universe&quot;, or that we have infinite wisdom, did they? If we are designed, than what of all of the &quot;flaws&quot;, results of a poor design? To follow your analogy, we would not design our lasers to develop cancer, or direct our lasers to attack other lasers in our name, ( we would be &quot;laser-gods&quot;, LOL ;D). If both lasers prayed to me to win, which would I pick? I do not think it has anything to do with egos.
BTW are we all not athiests of every religion but your own? Is there anyone here worshiping Thor or Athena? Would this not make you an athiest as well? *:-/ I am not satified with easy answers.
These are just questions that are in my mind, it is not my intention to offend or persaude, only to provoke thought.
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BTW are we all not athiests of every religion but your own? Is there anyone here worshiping Thor or Athena? Would this not make you an athiest as well? :-/ I am not satified with easy answers.
Here's a good one:

In most religions, if you don't believe in them you go to the religions equivalent of hell. But you can only believe in one religion.
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We are certainly not the most intellegant creatures in the universe, there are billions maybe trillions of galaxies, with billions of stars with lots of planets, each with the chance that it could harbour life, now tell me that there is no other life form out there that is as smart as us.

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As mine!

I am highly outnumbered, which is why I haven't specified, but I'm not atheist.

But lots of ANTI-GOD pictures and comments.

So I had to add one that shows some of us on here have other views.

Some people assume that if they can't see it, touch it or understand it; that it doesn't exist. I'm not one of them

My biggest quandry would not be about &quot;Life&quot;. It would be where the matter (atoms, etc) came from in the first place.

At some point matter (atoms, molecules, elements) appeared!

To have a &quot;big bang&quot; you still have to have matter.
To have a &quot;oscillating universe&quot; you still have to have matter.

Any theory on the origin of the universe presupposes the existence of matter already!

Its much easier to make a laser, if you already have the pieces in front of you then if you have to create them out of thin air.




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